Righto. On a proper computer now.
Thom said
And was kind to provide the citation.
http://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-r...ge-survey/
Along with a headline quote
However, the headline is somewhat misleading (as they often are).
What the data actually shows is that while atheists and agnostics did indeed score higher on religious knowledge, this was General religious knowledge, covering all religions and things
Thats well and good and shows a greater knowledge on religion in general. However the title of this thread is BIBLICAL literacy. And the link which M provided also says:-
So I really don't know why this would cause fundies to shit haemorrage over it, and it does not, as Thom said, show that atheists know the bible better than christians. It shows that Atheists have a broader knowledge of religions, but that christians have a greater knowledge of the bible.... which pretty much makes sense.
There were a lot of other posts about the bible being variously made up / immoral / inconsistent / illogical etc. Most of those I actually agree with because I believe it was written by men and men are fallible, gullible, and very capable of making stuff up to fit the needs of what they needed to convince the hairy arsed rubes that what they were doing was AOK. But this is by the by to the OP.
Sorry for the long post. But as much as it vexes me when Theists wave the "loads of studies show" appeal to authority placard and / or overstate or misrepresent data, that doesn't make it ok for atheists to do it.
. Where someone had taken the time to get proper data, and someone else has had the integrity to post the actual citation, it deserves to be examined properly, rather than just the headline (which can be misleading).
That's enough from me. I doubt anyone has read all this anyway
I am, of course, happy to examine other data if anyone has any.
Thom said
Quote:Sorry but the problem is that studies have shown that it is atheists who actually know more about the bible - and it is because we have actually read it.And minimalist said
Quote:ACtually there has been such a study. Fundies have a shit-hemorrhage over it!
And was kind to provide the citation.
http://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-r...ge-survey/
Along with a headline quote
Quote:Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge, outperforming evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics on questions about the core teachings, history and leading figures of major world religions.
However, the headline is somewhat misleading (as they often are).
What the data actually shows is that while atheists and agnostics did indeed score higher on religious knowledge, this was General religious knowledge, covering all religions and things
Quote:like the role of religion in public life, including a question about what the U.S. Constitution says about religion.
Thats well and good and shows a greater knowledge on religion in general. However the title of this thread is BIBLICAL literacy. And the link which M provided also says:-
Quote:On questions about Christianity – including a battery of questions about the Bible – Mormons (7.9 out of 12 right on average) and white evangelical Protestants (7.3 correct on average) show the highest levels of knowledge.
So I really don't know why this would cause fundies to shit haemorrage over it, and it does not, as Thom said, show that atheists know the bible better than christians. It shows that Atheists have a broader knowledge of religions, but that christians have a greater knowledge of the bible.... which pretty much makes sense.
There were a lot of other posts about the bible being variously made up / immoral / inconsistent / illogical etc. Most of those I actually agree with because I believe it was written by men and men are fallible, gullible, and very capable of making stuff up to fit the needs of what they needed to convince the hairy arsed rubes that what they were doing was AOK. But this is by the by to the OP.
Sorry for the long post. But as much as it vexes me when Theists wave the "loads of studies show" appeal to authority placard and / or overstate or misrepresent data, that doesn't make it ok for atheists to do it.
. Where someone had taken the time to get proper data, and someone else has had the integrity to post the actual citation, it deserves to be examined properly, rather than just the headline (which can be misleading). That's enough from me. I doubt anyone has read all this anyway
I am, of course, happy to examine other data if anyone has any.
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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
