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Aleph Bet and DNA
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA
(December 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm)max-greece Wrote:
(December 8, 2013 at 3:03 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

What you have is a clever linking of things (religion and genetics in this case) that appears to have all the hallmarks of something but actually doesn't, other than a testament to human ingenuity and imagination.

There are 22 letters of Hebrew and 24 of Greek. Hebrew is concrete and Greek is abstract. They are the foundation for both our understanding of nature and mathematics. In Greek, all the letters represent an aspect of mathematical understanding. For instance, Phi is, among other things, the golden ration of 1:1.618. There are 46 chromosomes. 2 pairs of 22 and 2 sex. When the body is complete, it is East and West (Chirality). This is mirrored to our language because the Tree of Life and the Tree of knowledge are both linked above and below. DNA is a shadow of the information in light.

Again, see the video of the Nobel Laureates I linked in this thread. You will not win this argument. Logic, reason and common sense will rise against the density of ignorance. No imagination needed. It is evident. Scientific theory that denies creation takes imagination.

Truth is simple. Aleph Bet

(December 8, 2013 at 4:05 pm)WesOlsen Wrote: Given that you only have a wikipedia level understanding of DNA, and have refused to respond to my post above, just take it from someone who works in pathology for a living that you don't know what you're talking about. This link should put the case to bed:

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB180.html

You believe your fairy tales if you like, we've no time for bedtime stories here.

Fallacy. Where is your context? The OP stands as evident. I have produced enough evidence for anyone to see this from logic, reason and common sense. Did you watch the video? These guys would disagree with you.





(December 8, 2013 at 3:49 pm)WesOlsen Wrote:
(December 8, 2013 at 3:03 pm)StrongWaters Wrote: Once you arrive at a simple evident truth, it is pointless to assign intermediaries or partners to that truth. I can if you like.

Start with the premise. DNA is an alphabet. God claims the title Father, which is Aleph Bet, or the one producing the information that is then sent out. Word is a chain and sequence of information (letter), mirrored by the sperm traveling to the egg. This is mirrored by proteins made from amino acids (letters) of DNA in union with the other sex chromosome. There is a catalyst between the letters and the words. Water is the catalyst, or medium. God also claims this title as Aleph Mem, or strong water. In chemistry and in physics, chirality demonstrates my premise with no room for argument. The only way for two asymmetrical things to be superimposed on the other is with a symmetrical catalyst. You suggest there is no connection. I have demonstrated that there is. Scientific observation confirms me on every level. If you would like to deny, you must first show error in my premise.

Apart from translation invariance and symmetry laws, none of this is possible. God claims the laws and mirrors them with parable and proverb, which are outlines for the simple mind to understand. For instance, when God states that He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, he is demonstrating invariant symmetry. Again, evident. The proof is above and below. What I show you is the root, or the fact that no other transitional intermediaries are needed to reduce as a foundation. Additionally, the higher axiom then resolves any contradiction or paradox below.

From the mouth of the Nobel Lauriates, here is the digital universe. It is founded on letters and word, or sequences of information forming logical symmetries. Those symmetries are translational by nature and never change, but instead change what they reveal. Light cannot be seen. It reveals what it hits. The light does not change.

For more on this, you might want to educate yourself on symmetry laws.

Invariance and Symmetry are Parallel to What God Claims about Himself.

The OP stands. You now have more proof to work around. Simply saying it is not true is empty.

What's in the well always comes up in the bucket.




There are a number of fundamental problems with your bombastic claim. Firstly, DNA is not true language. Abrahamic types love to assert that DNA is language, and that language must always be programmed by something or someone. Both assertions are completely false. DNA does not follow a power law. It communicates certain information but not in the same sense, therefore DNA is technically cipher, not language. Secondly, your understanding of DNA synthesis and the role (and omission) of other protein coders, such as RNA, is crude and incomplete.

Look here strawman, you know perfectly well that I was using the letters and words as analogies for what they represent. God has done the same. By this verse, we know what God is implying with a simple explanation. By the entire context of scripture (Creation Narrative), God is outlining all of creation and law by parable. You know this. Your implication above is a straw man approach to deflect the premise. The premise is evident. A higher power has left us with the evidence of how we were created. Further, all of science then confirms that Word (strings of information with design and purpose) are at the heart of Creation.

This premise is evident by logic, reason and simple common sense. You know what you are doing here. You are twisting what is easily seen with common sense. You need to be honest with yourself first.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

The funny thing in this will emerge to you if you look close. Darkness did not comprehend. Define a hologram. How does the light reveal the word (information) enclosed in a hologram?

Will you answer simply, or twist your explanation to deflect what is evident? Why not simply be honest with yourself on this. It is evident.
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Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 7, 2013 at 8:16 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Esquilax - December 7, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 7, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Esquilax - December 8, 2013 at 3:28 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by The Reality Salesman - December 9, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by houseofcantor - December 7, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Faith No More - December 7, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 7, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Minimalist - December 8, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by The_Thinking_Theist - December 7, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by WesOlsen - December 7, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Chad32 - December 7, 2013 at 12:08 pm
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 7, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Darkstar - December 8, 2013 at 1:18 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Cyberman - December 8, 2013 at 3:44 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 8, 2013 at 5:45 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 8, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 8, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Esquilax - December 8, 2013 at 9:49 am
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 8, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 8, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Chas - December 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Esquilax - December 8, 2013 at 3:22 pm
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 8, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 8, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 8, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Bad Writer - December 8, 2013 at 10:23 am
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Bad Writer - December 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by WesOlsen - December 8, 2013 at 3:49 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by max-greece - December 8, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by WesOlsen - December 8, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Bad Writer - December 8, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Esquilax - December 8, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 8, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Esquilax - December 9, 2013 at 12:03 am
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Zazzy - December 8, 2013 at 8:37 pm
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by Walking Void - December 9, 2013 at 11:52 am
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 9, 2013 at 12:31 pm
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 9, 2013 at 1:30 pm
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RE: Aleph Bet and DNA - by StrongWaters - December 9, 2013 at 3:46 pm
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