(December 8, 2013 at 10:28 pm)whateverist Wrote: Good answer. So I'm to remain not one whit closer to knowing what this god is you all speak of I guess. Apparently it's either everything - and I can certainly agree that everything (that I've experienced) exists - or nothing at all. I remain doubtful but not cocky about your god.well I don't think God would be the equivalent to everything, this would be sort of a pantheist view. I would think Panentheism would be a little closer to what i'm talking about, that God extends beyond nature and thus is greater than it. I would not say the universe and the divine are ontologically equivalent.
Quote:I'm sure we both walk away understanding the other in terms of our worldview. For you, I'm just another willful ingrate who won't humble himself enough to let god in. For me, I have no doubt that you experience oneness with god but I assume that is because god is a sub-routine your consciousness is running. Even if I'm right, I wouldn't begrudge you your experience with your consciousness the way you have it. I don't think there is any error involved. It is just one of many possible configurations. If you like it, enjoy yourself. But try not to worry too much about the salvation of the skeptical. We have our own enjoyments as well. To each his own.I wouldn't abridge your experience with whatever it is you choose to believe of reality, whether that be materialism or some metaphysical belief. I only argue truth, not subjective superiority of beliefs.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
-Galileo
