(February 14, 2010 at 12:06 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Well, much the same way that people say they test the holy spirit through their experience with reality, I did the same thing and realized that much of what people call miracles are nothing more than just coincidence or even just nature taking its course and people labeling it a miracle after the fact. I prayed my ass off and followed what I thought was the voice of God and it got me nowhere and much of what I thought was supposed to happen didn't. Opportunities that I saw as, "from God," evaporated for no reason except human capriciousness. Maybe the devil was testing me.The devil don't test ya', son, you test you! LOLNah!
I have my feelings on coincidence...(namely that I think it is a logical impossibility)that would probably be best brought up in this conversation, since you mentioned coincidences as not being 'miraculous.
Surprisingly, your's is the most legitimate reasoning I've seen given for atheism, though I still don't see what made you turn from the message of the Bible that you supposedly 'saw.
Quote:Basically I analyzed why I believed in god at all and realized that there was no good reason, so I became unconvinced and eventually I arrived at my current state of non-belief.Perfectly logical, but there's always chance for reexamination.
Quote:Religions are all about wish fulfillment and social control through the ultimate appeal to authority, "Because God supports my position, so na na na boo boo, stick your head in doo doo!"
Rhizo
I disagree; people are all about ish fulfillment and social control, it's in their nature to create things/constructs/objects which can be used to control their fellow man. The actual message of religion differs vastly from this concept, but is one of the most palpably easy things to misconstrue to seem as such.
