(February 14, 2010 at 5:31 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:However fictional a person is, a person they remain. I honestly don't see how a Christian can't believe in Jesus, and still speculate that he might not have "existed". I do it all the time with gods... i don't believe in any of them, but i speculate about them all the time(February 14, 2010 at 4:47 pm)Saerules Wrote: Actually, his statement that Jesus ≠ his own message is true. His further summation that the message is real, even if he is not, is also true. It would be untrue only in that it didn't actually come from 'Jesus'.I'm not doubting the Bible's existence, what I'm addressing is the lack of honesty in that statement. As a Christian he cannot simultaneously say Jesus is real and then go on speculate that he may not even exist at all. He either believes Christ is real or he does not, there is no middle ground.
I believe Sherlock Holmes is real... i don't care wether he really 'lived' or not. I think what Wastson means is that even if Jesus was just a fabrication, it doesn't dilute "his" message any. While we can recognize Doyle as the author behind Holmes (Though I can only honestly recognize Doctor Watson as the author... it is that well written imo)... we don't really know who the authors behind Jesus were. Nonetheless... Jesus has 'messages', even if they were not said/writ by him... in the same way as Holmes said "Singularity is almost invariably a clue. The more featureless and commonplace a crime is, the more difficult it is to bring it home."
Had Doyle said that without using Holmes, he would have sounded very hypocritical indeed together with his belief in fairies.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
