Sorry new to the post and missed the context referring only to babies and infants. I was referring to your statement: "AS far as the story of "being saved" by the christ - because of original sin - the bible contradicts that claim. In Isiah - and elsewhere - the bible says that a man is not responsible for the sins of his father - and the father is not responsible for the sins of the son. SO - only Eve (and possibly adam - but 1 Timothy 2 - says otherwise) - needs to be saved." It sounds like to me you are arguing that the doctrine of "original sin" is not Biblical and using that as a premise to argue that being saved by the Christ is a story. Also, am I understanding you correctly that you are saying only Eve and possibly Adam sinned and because we are not punished for their sins we are don't need to "be saved" by the Christ? It is written "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23. "All" means everyone has sinned and need an atonement. Christ provides that atonement for all who put their faith and trust in Him. As for the application to infants and babies, two popular views are 1. infants are covered by grace until the age of accountability and 2. all are born depraved then the doctrine of predestination finishes the work. Either of the two views still involve Christ's sacrifice on the cross to save, infants, babies, and adults.
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Biblical illiteracy - by Silver - December 6, 2013 at 10:03 pm
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