(December 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Godschild Wrote:(December 12, 2013 at 4:06 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: It would help to tell me where i'm wrong but ok how about this:
Big cats kill cubs which are not theirs, in order to bring females back into heat. Therefore the male will be able to mate with them and spread his genes. Benefit.
Killed perfectly healthy cubs that would have matured sooner than his and had a better chance for survival. They do it for one reason to breed.
But they wouldn't have been his. The selfish gene at work. Individuals want to spend their efforts furthering their own genetic line - not that of another animal.
Quote:BW Wrote:Chimps kill each other to maintain their social hierarchy and group. If one male kills the other in a dominance battle, the stronger will win and the whole group will benefit as a result. Benefit
Chimps will hunt and kill other chimps they do not like, they also will kill out of anger.
True - quite human in that sense aren't they.
Quote:BW Wrote:Fish will eat their young if the young are deemed too weak to survive. Or, they will be eaten because the parent cannot look after them at that time due to conditions such as lack of food etc. Parent fish live to spawn another day. Benefit
Bull, the male watching the fry will attack and eat healthy fry just because it's hungry.
And you know the thought processes of a fish how exactly?
Quote:BW Wrote:Wolves, like chimps will kill each other to maintain their social hierarchy and pack statuses. Benefit
Wrong, wolves seldom kill within the pack it's detrimental to the pack, a pack needs all the members it can get. Wolves will hunt down othe packs or solitary wolves and kill them.
To eliminate competition. It should be clear, however, that wolves have territories and generally pack fighting only occurs when one group invades the territory of another.
Quote:BW Wrote:Grizzly bears kill black bears because they compete for the same food. Benefit
Wrong, grizzlies will kill black bears and the cubs of female grizzlies for food, even when food is plentiful.
Grizzlies are omnivorous. They can get the dual benefit of food and elimination of competition.
Quote:BW Wrote:Common house cats kill their young because they don't want to take care of them because they either are not ready or don't know how. Waste of time and effort on the cats part. Benefit
I do not know why common cats kill their young, I've seen them do it and they had litters before.
As long as enough cats look after the young they produce the species does not have a problem.
Quote:BW Wrote:You were saying I was wrong....
I still say you're wrong, some of what you said might be true to a very small degree at best.
GC
And again, how would you know this?
Of course one might add the question - what God would create a world where there is so much hardship and so many seemingly horrible acts?
What God would create a world with so many parasitic creatures doing unspeakably horrific things to other creatures just to survive?[/quote]
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