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God is timeless
RE: God is timeless
(December 13, 2013 at 8:40 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(December 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Killed perfectly healthy cubs that would have matured sooner than his and had a better chance for survival. They do it for one reason to breed.

They were not the males cubs, therefore: benefit

(December 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Chimps will hunt and kill other chimps they do not like, they also will kill out of anger.

That doesn't mean it isn't beneficial. If they kill a chimp they don't like, it decreases conflict within the group, better squad cohesion = benefit

(December 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Bull, the male watching the fry will attack and eat healthy fry just because it's hungry.

Natural selection at work here. Only the weakest and slowest fry will be eaten by the male, ensuring the strongest survive and so they are more likely to reproduce in later life. Benefit

(December 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Wrong, wolves seldom kill within the pack it's detrimental to the pack, a pack needs all the members it can get. Wolves will hunt down othe packs or solitary wolves and kill them.

Again, that doesn't stop it from being beneficial. Lone wolves are often males who have left their own pack and are looking to start another. They do this by either taking over another pack or stealing females from it. Killing a lone wolf, prevents this. Benefit. Killing a whole other pack decreases competition for food and hunting grounds. Benefit.

(December 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: Wrong, grizzlies will kill black bears and the cubs of female grizzlies for food, even when food is plentiful.

Doesn't change the fact that one less competitor is beneficial.


(December 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: I still say you're wrong, some of what you said might be true to a very small degree at best.

GC

The whole point of me saying these things is because you said killing was pointless or something like that. I have showed you that animals killing each other is never pointless and always beneficial. You have shown you don't know much about animals, evolution or natural selection

Seems to me that you are interpreting science to benefit your view, I've studied animal behavior and some of what you say is natural selection, but that does not mean it's a benefit for the species. Natural selection that's a benefit to animals is when predators take out the old and weak of other species. The wolves of Yellowstone kill each other and I can tell you from experience that there is no lack of food for them, the park could support a larger population of wolves with no harm to themselves or their pray. As far as the fish go, I use to be a semi-pro competitive fishermen and it was my business to know the behavior of fish.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 3, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: God is timeless - by max-greece - December 3, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: God is timeless - by LastPoet - December 3, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: God is timeless - by Ben Davis - December 3, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: God is timeless - by Minimalist - December 3, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: God is timeless - by LastPoet - December 3, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: God is timeless - by freedomfromforum - December 3, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: God is timeless - by Little Rik - December 3, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: God is timeless - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 3, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: God is timeless - by freedomfromforum - December 3, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: God is timeless - by Silver - December 3, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 3, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: God is timeless - by freedomfromforum - December 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Godschild - December 4, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: God is timeless - by LostLocke - December 4, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Godschild - December 4, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: God is timeless - by LostLocke - December 4, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Esquilax - December 5, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: God is timeless - by Godschild - December 5, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: God is timeless - by LostLocke - December 5, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 6, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Godschild - December 6, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 6, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Godschild - December 6, 2013 at 4:57 pm
RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 6, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Lion IRC - December 6, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 6, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Godschild - December 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 6, 2013 at 5:38 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 7, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 7, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Bad Writer - December 7, 2013 at 3:02 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 7, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: God is timeless - by pocaracas - December 7, 2013 at 9:11 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 8, 2013 at 5:29 am
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 8, 2013 at 11:04 am
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RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 8, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 8, 2013 at 11:42 am
RE: God is timeless - by Whateverist - December 8, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 8, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Whateverist - December 7, 2013 at 3:13 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 4, 2013 at 9:02 am
RE: God is timeless - by Angrboda - December 4, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: God is timeless - by KichigaiNeko - December 4, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Minimalist - December 4, 2013 at 3:16 am
RE: God is timeless - by pocaracas - December 4, 2013 at 7:57 am
RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 4, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: God is timeless - by Little Rik - December 4, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: God is timeless - by Ben Davis - December 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Little Rik - December 5, 2013 at 6:09 am
RE: God is timeless - by Angrboda - December 5, 2013 at 6:28 am
RE: God is timeless - by Ben Davis - December 5, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: God is timeless - by Little Rik - December 6, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: God is timeless - by Bad Wolf - December 6, 2013 at 11:59 am
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RE: God is timeless - by Ben Davis - December 6, 2013 at 12:27 pm
RE: God is timeless - by WackyWicky - December 15, 2013 at 4:57 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 4, 2013 at 1:22 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 5, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: God is timeless - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 5, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 5, 2013 at 11:41 am
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RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 5, 2013 at 1:08 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by Ben Davis - December 5, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Minimalist - December 5, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: God is timeless - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 5, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: God is timeless - by LastPoet - December 5, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by LastPoet - December 5, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 5, 2013 at 12:34 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 5, 2013 at 1:19 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 5, 2013 at 1:35 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 6, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: God is timeless - by pocaracas - December 6, 2013 at 6:04 am
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 6, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 6, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 6, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: God is timeless - by pocaracas - December 6, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 6, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: God is timeless - by Walking Void - December 6, 2013 at 2:00 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 8, 2013 at 10:43 am
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RE: God is timeless - by Bad Writer - December 7, 2013 at 8:35 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by Bad Writer - December 8, 2013 at 9:41 am
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RE: God is timeless - by Bad Writer - December 8, 2013 at 10:11 am
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RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 8, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: God is timeless - by Bad Writer - December 8, 2013 at 10:15 am
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RE: God is timeless - by ablenova - December 8, 2013 at 11:54 am
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RE: God is timeless - by daandaan - December 9, 2013 at 2:02 am
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RE: God is timeless - by Neo-Scholastic - December 8, 2013 at 10:34 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 8, 2013 at 10:49 pm
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RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 9, 2013 at 5:51 am
RE: God is timeless - by Rational AKD - December 11, 2013 at 8:45 am
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RE: God is timeless - by FreeTony - December 11, 2013 at 9:00 am
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RE: God is timeless - by Bad Writer - December 12, 2013 at 12:03 am
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RE: God is timeless - by max-greece - December 13, 2013 at 3:05 am
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