(December 14, 2013 at 1:27 am)Medi Wrote: Look, to human perception, for practical reasons related to the point I was making, we perceive the present moment. Whether we can 'travel' through time, or not, doesn't negate the fact that within our minds, we are always in a 'present'.
Our perception limits us to 'experiencing' the present moment, in the physical sense. We don't 'experience' the past in the present, though we may remember it. That actual 'moment' is part of the past. And the 'future', is something that practically, we can't 'experience', since again, our physical 'place' limits us to the present momentary experience. Even if we were 'in' the future, we would be 'present' in those future moments.
The point that I made is that christians might say this 'restriction' wouldn't apply to God.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm trying not to conceptualize time in terms of what it is in a physics book or on paper, I'm talking from humanity's literal physical 'experience' with time, and its limitations in that context.
I'm pretty sure that I agreed that conscious experience is in a perpetual present. My point was that taking into account developments in science and philosophy of time (generally rejecting absolute simultaneity) sort of ruins that I think. And it seems to entail something bordering on incoherency, namely that there is a conscious mind who can experience things, but even before and after they happen.
