God is timeless

[Medi]

Look, to human perception, for practical reasons related to the point I was making, we perceive the present moment. Whether we can 'travel' through time, or not, doesn't negate the fact that within our minds, we are always in a 'present'.

Our perception limits us to 'experiencing' the present moment, in the physical sense. We don't 'experience' the past in the present, though we may remember it. That actual 'moment' is part of the past. And the 'future', is something that practically, we can't 'experience', since again, our physical 'place' limits us to the present momentary experience. Even if we were 'in' the future, we would be 'present' in those future moments.

The point that I made is that christians might say this 'restriction' wouldn't apply to God.

I understand what you're saying, but I'm trying not to conceptualize time in terms of what it is in a physics book or on paper, I'm talking from humanity's literal physical 'experience' with time, and its limitations in that context.

I'm pretty sure that I agreed that conscious experience is in a perpetual present. My point was that taking into account developments in science and philosophy of time (generally rejecting absolute simultaneity) sort of ruins that I think. And it seems to entail something bordering on incoherency, namely that there is a conscious mind who can experience things, but even before and after they happen.

You did, my mistake. And perhaps it does border on incoherence, but for humanity to be a race of beings able to not only comprehend a passing of one moment to the next, but to apply concepts in physics and then posit that a person can theoretically travel throughout an inherently invisible dimension except on paper to a point in time where matter is set out differently and where events which the travelling subject has already experienced are yet to happen or vice versa isn't a far stretch from 'a conscious mind who can experience things even before and after they happen'.

If our ability ever catches up with our theories then it wouldn't be a far leap to presume something like this is possible.

And if such a thing is possible, who's to assume that it hasn't 'already been done', so to speak? I'm just saying that I can think of rational (using that word loosely) explanations for a belief in a God unbound by time's restrictions on man. I suppose it just depends how far we wan't to set the bar for what's possible. Ten dimensions and we know lots about three, a little about one and not a terrible lot about the rest.