(February 16, 2010 at 8:32 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 16, 2010 at 7:50 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(February 14, 2010 at 7:52 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You were born naked and hungry and by some means you have to feed and clothe yourself with and without the help of parents. You're born selfish - babies are manipulative, greedy etc... you learn to coexist. No difference.
So how does this make you a sinner condemned to eternal hellfire if you don't beg forgiveness?
If you live an unhealthy life you reap what you sow.
(February 16, 2010 at 7:16 pm)peace2u Wrote:(February 15, 2010 at 8:22 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: How is that contradictory P2U?
Born of/ has the propensity ... it isn't passed up or down... you own it.
I'm just commenting on the concept of the original sin. Mainstream Christian believe that every man is born sinful taught by the Churches. Well, this teaching goes against the verse in the Bible. I thought I was clear enough.
That text (Ezekial) doesn't say that to me P2U (what was your translation? - I can't find anything remotely similar). Man's fallibility is established in the Adam and Eve story. ...or do you disagree with that? The concept is: that people are not perfect but in need of correction ...that's very basic theology. Civilised society reflects the same thing to an extent as children are taught that selfishness and greed are counter productive.
Civilized society has also come much further than the conflicting stories and ambiguous moral values of scripture.
