@GC you are a douche I am sorry but as a Spiritual (Gnostic) Christian I have to refute your teachings.
Can I ask how you know all prophecy has been completed? The problem here is that the Bible is very vague in its Prophesy’s. It’s the same as saying ‘Something will happen at somepoint in the future’ And saying that I am a prophet.
One thing that I find so strange is that Jesus was able to tell people about the end times but never once mentioned a visible sign e.g. (There will be people driving metal boxes / there will be lights upon many roads) or even (The year is x).
Failed prophecy. (Isaiah 7:14 – Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a young woman will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel’). I believe we call His name Jesus. So was Jesus the same person Isaiah was referring to?
Actually the bible makes it clear that we will not go to Heaven! (Rev 21:2 – And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.) In many places God said we are not going to Heaven! Heck if heaven was achievable through simple death then why would Jesus hold back explaining its mysteries when prompted by the disciples.
Like a previous poster mentioned it depends on your definition of the word nation. Take where I live, Northern Ireland – Catholics and Protestants hate each other and still murder one another but we live in a state of peace? So when some politician wants to call it a nation you have to work out what the actual people on the ground think! Just saying something doesn’t make it so. If I say you are a Douche – Is this correct?!
I am not in the slightest happy with your assentation that all Christians do not commit crime! I download Illegal music but according to you it’s not a crime?!
So now you have raised the word ‘Most’ in a previous post you used the word ‘All’ please be concise as to the scope of your libel? I do not believe the Church wants to ‘Save the Saved’ as you put it however I do believe that the church should ‘Look at itself before looking at others’. The Church is badly tainted and people such as yourself prove this.
‘If one does not make it to heaven one is not a Christian’ ok let’s cut the bull shit here with all the ye olde English – Your statement can be worded another way as ‘Only Christians Go to Heaven’. So what happened with all Characters prior to the First Coming of Jesus?
Actually again I say the Bible makes it ‘CLEAR’ we will not goto heaven and will reside on this ‘EARTH’. Also if you want me to really hurt your little argument we can make a case for the fact that Satan was able to rebel against God. True he did not win but it shows that heaven is not all roses either. Considering there are angels who think it’s better to be in God’s wrath than it is to serve him?
Actually I do not believe in the whole Pauline concept of ‘Grace’ I believe Jesus was here to lead us to God he never once said that his death was the thing that brought us to God. The statement is (John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.) If we read it as it should be read, It says that we must believe in Jesus – Now Jesus spoke many words of wisdom about our spiritual paths and the way to life I believe that by following God and learning more and more we will achieve enlightenment which will lead us to eternal life.
Quote:Most all prophecy has been completed, very little left and most of that is the event itself. Will not be a 22nd century as we know time. You might be surprised to know what's happening in Israel at this time.
Can I ask how you know all prophecy has been completed? The problem here is that the Bible is very vague in its Prophesy’s. It’s the same as saying ‘Something will happen at somepoint in the future’ And saying that I am a prophet.
One thing that I find so strange is that Jesus was able to tell people about the end times but never once mentioned a visible sign e.g. (There will be people driving metal boxes / there will be lights upon many roads) or even (The year is x).
Failed prophecy. (Isaiah 7:14 – Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a young woman will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel’). I believe we call His name Jesus. So was Jesus the same person Isaiah was referring to?
Quote:Those looking forward to the end times are mostly those who believe in the rapture, if they knew what was really at hand they might not be so excited. I look forward to it because this world is in deterioration and it is not as pleasant place as it should be.
Actually the bible makes it clear that we will not go to Heaven! (Rev 21:2 – And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.) In many places God said we are not going to Heaven! Heck if heaven was achievable through simple death then why would Jesus hold back explaining its mysteries when prompted by the disciples.
Quote:How does one self fulfill the prophecy of Israel becoming a nation again after 2000 years. This has not happened to any other nation ever.
Like a previous poster mentioned it depends on your definition of the word nation. Take where I live, Northern Ireland – Catholics and Protestants hate each other and still murder one another but we live in a state of peace? So when some politician wants to call it a nation you have to work out what the actual people on the ground think! Just saying something doesn’t make it so. If I say you are a Douche – Is this correct?!
Quote:Really the largest percentage of terrible crime, actually all crime are committed by non Christians.Ok wow boy lets be very careful making that call, Again where I am from the Catholic Church has been shook to its core by the revelations of Child Sex abuse this to me is Crime? Or are you trying to assert the OT versions of crimes? E.g. back then it was ok to rape a child!
I am not in the slightest happy with your assentation that all Christians do not commit crime! I download Illegal music but according to you it’s not a crime?!
Quote: Most criminals are not Christians before they go to prison, why do you think the churches have prison ministries. Do you think we want to save the saved. There as several polls but they are on the population after they are in prison. We are told in the NT that murderers, thieves, liars and ect. will not be in heaven. If one doesn't make it to heaven one is not a Christian.
So now you have raised the word ‘Most’ in a previous post you used the word ‘All’ please be concise as to the scope of your libel? I do not believe the Church wants to ‘Save the Saved’ as you put it however I do believe that the church should ‘Look at itself before looking at others’. The Church is badly tainted and people such as yourself prove this.
‘If one does not make it to heaven one is not a Christian’ ok let’s cut the bull shit here with all the ye olde English – Your statement can be worded another way as ‘Only Christians Go to Heaven’. So what happened with all Characters prior to the First Coming of Jesus?
Quote:Mr. Pastor, if you ever was a pastor, you should know what scripture says about who will be in heaven. Play your little denial games all you want because in the end that's all they are games.
Actually again I say the Bible makes it ‘CLEAR’ we will not goto heaven and will reside on this ‘EARTH’. Also if you want me to really hurt your little argument we can make a case for the fact that Satan was able to rebel against God. True he did not win but it shows that heaven is not all roses either. Considering there are angels who think it’s better to be in God’s wrath than it is to serve him?
Quote:Faith has no magic, with God it's full of grace, of coarse you can't begin to understand such love.
Actually I do not believe in the whole Pauline concept of ‘Grace’ I believe Jesus was here to lead us to God he never once said that his death was the thing that brought us to God. The statement is (John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.) If we read it as it should be read, It says that we must believe in Jesus – Now Jesus spoke many words of wisdom about our spiritual paths and the way to life I believe that by following God and learning more and more we will achieve enlightenment which will lead us to eternal life.
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