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(February 18, 2010 at 8:25 pm)padraic Wrote: Fair enough.
My response was about the humbug of Christians specifically. A moral relativist,my position is morality is pragmatic,not transcendent. I recognise one and only one moral authority;conscience..
Oh, I agree with that on many levels Padraic....
Tack Quote:
Quote:If that's your main point and the end of your logic trail then I'll cut it short with I completely agree that it should remain out of Gov. and schools. I would also like to point out that positive morality should not be left out, but religion isn't the only source for that.
It's not my main point and please clarify what you state as a "Logic Trail".....Tack, you believe in a "Christian GOD"..... Logic, in my opinion, has left the building for you the second you state this....."NOT" to the point of you believing in a higher power etc, but the point that you label it as a "Christian one"... So in other words, please don't tell me how logical you are when you reference yourself as a "Christian".....
Also, I believe Padriac had already posted and shown the over 600 laws of the Jewish sect.. Not 300....
And on a side question, the 3 books you posted were "New" Testament "NOT" Old Testament.....
but on your defense, was it because Meatballs question was directed towards Jesus? I ask this because you brought up "Judean Laws"....
Just as him, I've heard the same story lines of "Jesus" and even story points detailed in him traveling to Northern Asia and learning the Buddhist type teachings etc.
As much as I would like to call "Bullshit", the fact remains that there is no evidence of either.. I believe I had wrote here before that, "I" can believe there was a person back then that traveled, preached, and was trying to change the way people thought etc. (Good, bad, or indifferent)... But in, no way, shape, form or fashion, do I believe this "Man" was some supernatural being or became some form of Zombie etc. .
I thought you were summarizing with your affirmation of min's belief, and agreeing with you both. I couldn't find a question to answer though. Ask away.
I know those books were NT. you might need to reread my post. Meatball didn't have references for Jesus teaching pacifism, so I gave him some. I also was inferring that he was teaching against teh hate bred by the OT laws, not the laws themselves. Was that so hard to logically follow?
What I meant by "logic trail" was the series of steps in your thought process to reach a conclusion. You're more than welcome to form whatever opinions you like of me.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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