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God is god, and we are not god
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RE: God is god, and we are not god
(January 1, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Drich Wrote: Created perfectly, elected to be sick, then provided a cure for those who want to be well.

The really sad part is that you can't see how this statement conflicts with this one:

Quote:"free will" as most understand it is a greek philosphy and not a biblical concept. Matter of fact we are told several times in the bible we are slaves who's master is sin. (Meaning we can not help but to sin.) That is why Christ died to provide attonement. In this life we are only free to make one real choice and that is to accept attonement or not. In essence to be freed from sin.

Since this was an argument against free will, you can hardly say we elected to sin, can you? Especially not when you just got through saying we can't help it, but then, I guess internal consistency never has been high on your priorities list.

That said, we atheists at least understand why we can't help but sin: the entire system is configured in such a way as to make the absence of sin impossible. And then you add original sin on top of that, to just really seal the deal, and yet you have the gall to say we elect to sin?
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RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Esquilax - December 27, 2013 at 11:46 am
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RE: God is god, and we are not god - by freedomfromforum - December 27, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Godlesspanther - December 27, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by NoraBrimstone - December 27, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Angrboda - December 27, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by houseofcantor - December 31, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Snidely Whiplash - January 1, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Violet - December 28, 2013 at 5:31 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Marvin - December 28, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - December 31, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Whateverist - December 31, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by IATIA - January 1, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Neo-Scholastic - January 1, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Angrboda - January 1, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - December 31, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 1, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Esquilax - January 1, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cinjin - January 1, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 3, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 3, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 4, 2014 at 1:00 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by StoryBook - January 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 6, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by StoryBook - January 6, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Zen Badger - January 2, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Neo-Scholastic - January 2, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by houseofcantor - January 2, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Crossless1 - January 2, 2014 at 6:01 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Godlesspanther - January 2, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Neo-Scholastic - January 3, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Crossless1 - January 6, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 6, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 6, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by The Valkyrie - January 6, 2014 at 5:40 pm

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