Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[FlyingNarwhal]

It is doing EXACTLY what it should be doing. Passing on to be rehomed animals that can be and euthanising animals that are chronically sick. But hell keep repeating the same old shit

Accusing me of repeating the same old shit, did you even read through any of the links or did you just...you know....repeat the same old shit?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-w...79220.html

Rather large excerpt with pictures of dead animals:

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In 2012, 733 dogs entered this building. They killed 602 of them. Only 12 were adopted. Also in 2012, they impounded 1,110 cats. 1,045 were put to death. Seven of them were adopted. They also took in 34 other companion animals, such as rabbits, of which 28 were put to death. Only four were adopted.



A supermarket dumpster full of garbage bags. When police officers looked inside, they found the bodies of dead animals -- animals killed by PETA. PETA described these animals as "adorable" and "perfect." A veterinarian who naively gave PETA some of the animals, thinking they would find them homes, and examined the dead bodies of others, testified that they were "healthy" and "adoptable."



A mother cat and her two kittens, all perfectly healthy and adoptable and none in danger of being killed until they were given to PETA by a veterinarian who was trying to find them homes and was told by PETA employees that they would have no problem adopting them out. After PETA lied to him and the mother and her kittens were entrusted to their care, they reportedly killed them, within minutes, in the back of a van.



The PETA field killing kit found by police in the back of the PETA death van in Ahoskie, North Carolina.



An Ahoskie Police Detective dressed in a hazmat suit prepares to bury a puppy killed by PETA. This puppy and dozens of other animals including cats and kittens were found by police throughout June of 2005 after PETA employees dumped them in a garbage bin in North Carolina.



Puppies killed by PETA in the back of a van -- a donor-funded slaughterhouse on wheels. Despite $35,000,000 in annual revenues and millions of "animal-loving" members, PETA does not even try to find them homes. PETA has no adoption hours, does no adoption promotion, has no adoption floor, but is registered with the State of Virginia as a "humane society" or "animal shelter."

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Look I'm not really immersed in the whole animal protection thing, but in the short time I've spent to get the links I provided, I learned a little about No-Kill Shelters. They are recognized as "No-Kill" when they save at least 90% of the animals that come into the shelters, versus PETA killing 96% of the animals that come into their shelter.

That because you lack empathy. Its a nasty condition thats rather common

No trust me I have empathy, I just don't let it solely run my decisions. I don't like to see animals hurt, it makes me uncomfortable to see animals suffer. But pain, suffering, death are all common side effects of life. Unfortunate as they may be, the world keeps spinning. And ultimately I place human life above other animals.

The modern process of keeping animals in appalling conditions for months on end is rather different from the second it takes for animals to die in the wild.

I would like better conditions for animals that are going to be killed for food, however there are implications for doing so. Better conditions for animals that will be killed for food can mean an increase in the cost of that food. If there is a cost effective way to give better conditions while keeping costs low I would be all in favor. But right now, I'm not sure if you've heard, we got this thing called hungry people. Cheaper food means more food can be bought for or donated to them. You were talking about empathy before and like I said I have it. But I have it for the starving kids more so than animals. I don't like the bad conditions animals are exposed to, but if it means that 10% more starving people can eat then may I just say that pigs can go fuck themselves.

So you want all other life forms eradicated? Nice.

I don't want to eradicate animals, but if a species goes extinct as long as the absence of the species doesn't effect the human population in a meaningful way I really don't care. 99% of the animals that once lived on this planet have gone extinct, it isn't big news if another species joins them. Today if certain animals die it can cause a chain reaction in the ecosystem and indirectly affect us. But as we become more technologically advanced we will be able to find ways around these dilemmas. And as we reach those benchmarks it won't matter if a species fades out of existence. Eventually we will reach a point where there is no need for us to rely on the multitude of ecosystems this planet has provided and we will no longer require wild animals for continued survival.

I doubt it

Good answer. Very thought provoking. You remember how we used to say there were 6 billion people on the Earth? And then recently we started to say there are 7 billion people on the Earth? ....Yeeaaaahhhh

You want the population to exapnd so nothing else can exist? Lunacy

I don't want the population to expand, that's just what's gonna happen. Our population has been rising exponentially. What I want won't keep people from pulling out.

Why should we protect human that aren't necessary to our survival? I have nothing in common with you why on earth should I want you to live at the expense of others?

For the same reason my taxes go to welfare. I may not need welfare, but someday I might. Living in a society where we protect each other means that in the event that I need protection I can get some as well