RE: I need a volunteer
January 9, 2014 at 11:51 am
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2014 at 11:53 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
(January 9, 2014 at 10:01 am)enrico Wrote: You are making a hell of a confusion because you do not understand the role of brain, mind and consciousness.Hmm...let's see who is confused here...
(January 9, 2014 at 10:01 am)enrico Wrote: The brain is that physical stuff that allow the consciousness to operate.Ok. And if the brain that ALLOWS it to operate is dead…what then will allow it to operate? You’ve just contradicted everything that you’ve said.
(January 9, 2014 at 10:01 am)enrico Wrote: The mind is like the hard drive of a computer which store information, form and colors.Which exists in the brain, and if it dies, how then will your consciousness recognize form or colors? What then are you defending? Do you realize how self-refuting your thoughts are with regards to the position you think they are defending?
(January 9, 2014 at 10:01 am)enrico Wrote: The consciousness is me or I or the one who decide to start the thought or the action using the mind as a storage of information and the brains as the support for expressing action.You don’t decide to start a thought. They appear to you in consciousness. You are limited to what occurs to you. It’s a process of things entering your mind to be processed, and then appearing in consciousness. There’s a lot of brain activity that you are completely ignoring.
Here's some light reading that may interest you. It turns out, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consci...dings.html
You are confusing your personal experience of thought, with the third person understanding of how it actually works. I made this as plain as possible in the previous post, but you opted to ignore it completely, and just repeat yourself.
(January 9, 2014 at 10:01 am)enrico Wrote: As far as there is a parallelism among these elements everything works ok. but as soon as the body die then this parallelism is not there anymore and the consciousness separate in the same way as the driver abandon the car that does not work anymore.That doesn’t make any sense. You’ve just baselessly asserted a separate entity, and justified it by pointing out that people drive cars. This is a non sequitur.
(January 9, 2014 at 10:01 am)enrico Wrote: When our body start falling apart is like when the old car start falling apart.I said this previously, and you didn’t address any of it. I will restate it. Why is it that when specific brain organs responsible for sight and sound are damaged, we lose our ability to see or hear. If all of our brain functions are crossed out one by one, we quickly find ourselves unable to perceive anything about our surroundings or even our own bodies. If our entire body is destroyed, what exactly is it that you think will be surviving? There is no driver separate from the car. Saying it over and over again doesn’t make it so. What I’ve said makes this clear. Why do you just keep asserting things without recognizing that they are fatally flawed in this respect?
It is still going but not going like when the car was new.
The driver is still there inside the car and the car or the body is still moving but when the car wan't go anymore the driver will abandon the car in search for a new car that will allow to continue the journey toward the goal of life.
Quote:You are starting with the assumption that non-physical stuff exists. What exactly are you proposing this non-physical stuf is? You seem to be confused about perspectives, and your physical experience of thought. But, if you put a bullet through your brain, I assure you, you won't be troubled with such non-sense anymore. Saying a physical thing is like a non-physical thing only not physical gets us nowhere. You're simply asserting nonsensical utterances without justification or explanation.
(January 9, 2014 at 10:01 am)enrico Wrote: You have no evidence of whatsoever that the life if finite and no logic of whatsoever that make any sense.What? Are you drunk? None of this makes any sense, and you literally ignored my entire post to repeat things that you want to be true. You haven’t justified anything you’ve previously said. You haven’t resolved any of my objections, and then you finished it off with a nonsensical rant about dogs and Santa with the word logic sprinkled in between. You have demonstrated to me that you are incapable of reasoning. Your position is indistinguishable from delusion, and your state of mind is congruent with insanity. Good day.
You may well forget those myriad of NDE who experience afterlife and God and think for a while about logic.
Where the consciousness come from?
From Santa or it is evolved from a myriad of lives?
This is logic.
You don't get anything for free so you got to have that consciousness earned.
And if you build this consciousness will all go to the dogs?
Of course not.
This is logic.
But too many people don't follow logic and think that consciousness came from Santa and all for free.