Christians/Theists... why is it that ya'll think Harry Potter "bad"

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So let me emphasize the reason of this post.
For the people who dont know my background (as probably no one does), i live in a christian home, father is a pastor and when they see me watching harry potter, they say its "bad". I ask why? Its just bad...

I fail to understand why people think its wrong or in some way have a correlation with satan...?
its like saying a hammer is bad...? why dont they say the same to Hulk or Captain America...? maybe Thor as well? its all fantasy!

This is most directed to theists but my fellow atheists are free to comment

It has to do with the use of sorcery. We are told to stay away from sorcery not because it is fantasy, but because there is a power that drives sorcery that is not of God.

In other words there are some aspects of Harry potter translate into real world applications, and yet because it is paired with fantasy all of it is trivialized and dismissed as harmless, when in fact what has happened is a general desensitization to the whole subject of sorcery has happened making the young to feel comfortable around the powers and practice of real world sorcery.

I know the knee jerk response to taunt what I have said and trivialize the warning, but wouldn't that be the point I was making? Because wizards have been made into fictional characters it allows pop culture to assume all references to sorcery must also be to fiction, and to think otherwise is foolishness. When in fact satan is real, He is the master of this domain, and does indeed have the power to influence and effect those under his rule. when done in conjunction with man this is known as sorcery.

and what makes it bad? its like i said, calling a hammer is bad is not reasonable. its a tool, it then depends on the person what they use it for. sorcery is a tool and it depends on what the sorcerer does with it, as evident in the series and books.

and please tell me who is the good guy... god or satan?

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Many people in the middle east believe Harry Potter exists.

youre kidding o.o

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Please provide evidence of the existence of sorcery. Otherwise, you've slipped another notch down the Batshit Crazy Scale™.

What would said evidence look like? what form would it come in?

what evidence would look like? the same evidence that we can see with our eyes... thats kind of a facepalm question

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How about jumping off a bridge then chanting something to make you fly?

Actually that is not sorcery, that is fiction.

Biblical examples include petitioning satan/Demons/Familiar Spirits via potions and cermonial rituals for the supernatural ablity to heal, make someone sick, entertain (As Simon did in acts 8) or to maniuplate and control a persons situation.

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Why are you asking me? You are the one who says it exists. Show us the evidence of it.

You are making the claim. The burden of proof be upon thee.

I am asking you to define what you are looking for to ensure that you know what it is your looking for. If you are seeking evidence to support a fictional understanding of sorcery then we need to first work on your understanding of the word.

Drich... it all leads to you to prove that it exists, we as atheist say its fiction but you say otherwise, now the burden of proof lies on you to provide valid evidence for your claim...
So do you have proof or not? why do you believe it is real?

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Yea Drich, shouldn't you be able to tell us about the evidence that persuaded you that witchcraft is real? Or did you just believe it along with the rest of the bible?

The point I was making and you all seem all too eager to verify is that by accepting fictional accounts of things like witchcraft and sorcery, you have turn a blind eye to how it truly manifest itself.

Sorcery is not about harry potter magic, it is about using things like herbs and chants to get a desired result, from something as small as getting rid of a head ache or giving someone a head ache to killing them or healing them. Sorcery is about seeking means of changing one's situation outside of God. It is seeking to by pass God in hopes to control or manage one's own life, through other 'powers.'

so now prove that it actually works... and if it does then that means that sorcery, which is closely as probably just science... nothing wrong with that at all! medicine is made form plants and chemicals. you use them all the time i bet. so you yourself are participating in sorcery! meaning you should be killed according to your book

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Are you claiming that all instances of sorcery outside the bibble are fiction?

where did i say that, or rather what did I say to make you assume that? I said every example being presented was fiction, that the bible gave/gives examples, and the examples given are not of the cartoon vareity being referenced by you all.

Again sorcery is an attempt to petition Spirits,demons or satan himself through ritual and or potions/chemical means to acheave a desired effect. in an attempt to bypass the provaunaunce of God/God's will.

It is the intention to bypass God and petition another source of power through whatever means that what makes sorcery, sorcery. not the acts themselves.

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Is all sorcery bad then? Because I don't see someone healing someone else with magic, as a bad thing.

yes.

Take away the term 'magic' and replace it with demons, or a deal from the devil. If you had cancer and the devil offered you a full life in exchange for something to be determined at a later date would you take the deal or die?

Sorcery is petitioning essentially the devil for a favor now for something else later.. lest you think he is satasified with chicken feet and incense.

no because that would completely change the subject of the argument. the subject of the argument is magic/sorcery, not demons