I went to this 12 step thing, it was like a tutorial to help people do the 12 steps(outside of meetings). I think it was the step where you had to turn your will and life over to the care of god as you understood him. Near the end of the tutorial we had to stand up and either declare god is everything or god is nothing. So there I am, standing there with all this peer pressure, everyone individually singing out "god is everything" and people were smiling and enjoying themselves. I am saying to myself "fuck,fuck, what am I going to do, cave in or be honest." When it was my turn I screamed as loud as I could "god is nothing". Below is the types of looks I got.
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Up until this point I pretty much ignored the god area of the program and it was never ever pushed. After my tutorial episode and seem that every meeting I went to there was people pushing god. My time in the 12 step program did not last long after that. Every now and then I go back to stick to some people who put crap on me and to tell others that you do not have to believe in god for you to succeed.
As Ivy said, I think talking, sharing and listening to your peers can do wonders. It certainly helped me and all without a god.
My advice is to avoid all talk of god as much as possible.
hock: hock: hock: hock: hock: Up until this point I pretty much ignored the god area of the program and it was never ever pushed. After my tutorial episode and seem that every meeting I went to there was people pushing god. My time in the 12 step program did not last long after that. Every now and then I go back to stick to some people who put crap on me and to tell others that you do not have to believe in god for you to succeed.
As Ivy said, I think talking, sharing and listening to your peers can do wonders. It certainly helped me and all without a god.
My advice is to avoid all talk of god as much as possible.
