RE: Agnosticism
January 19, 2014 at 1:02 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2014 at 1:03 am by Whateverist.)
(January 16, 2014 at 1:01 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
Second, most who do not already believe in a god or a divine revelation already accept that anything they believe they know may turn out to be false or wrong; believing one's knowledge fallible and capable of revision is almost a required part of not believing in revealed sources of knowledge. The point that all knowledge is provisional seems a presupposition shared, not just among agnostics, but among all who deny sources of absolute knowledge such as gods, revelations, prophecy, or absolute codes. To add the word agnosticism to your claim to not believe in a god seems to be protesting too much by half, as it isn't only agnostic atheists who posit that their knowledge is only provisional, but essentially everybody. It's almost like saying "I'm a human atheist, by which I mean I'm distinctly human, unlike those other human atheists."
Lets have another go at this.
I still doubt that everyone who does not share a belief in any gods is so open to revising what they think as you indicate. Many seem to harbor a naive belief that all questions will ultimately be answered by science. Some seem to hold scientists in too high a regard as authorities and accept what they have to say too uncritically.
I do accept your point that knowledge should not be put on too high a pedestal as something requiring airtight evidence. But then when discussing something as strange as 'gods' I have a hard time understanding how people who do not believe in them can be so sure that what it is they doubt is the same thing as what the faithful believe in. Perhaps those who have recently left a religion in which they were a participant do know what it is that their colleagues believed in, but I don't. Furthermore, it may well be that what believers believe has some basis in their experience even if they misattribute the source of that experience.
Of course those who make literal claims about the age of the universe and judgement day and heaven and hell and take every allegory literally can be dismissed easily enough. But I'm not sure that net catches them all. I'm not so sure what it is exactly that Jacob believes about gods or what claims he would make for it. I'm equally in doubt about what interpersonal or transpersonal claims you would make for your Kali apart from your own intrapersonal experience.





