RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 19, 2014 at 1:23 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2014 at 1:25 pm by James2014.)
(January 19, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Are you suggesting that animals deserve the SAME rights as humans?
No, there are many rights would make sense for an animal to have, e.g. the right to vote!
I tend to take a utilitarian approach, and we should have rights that support utilitarian ideas. To that end animals should have the right to be free from human cruelty.
(January 19, 2014 at 1:17 pm)plaincents822 Wrote: When animals become vegan, I will become vegan. Until I see animals (especially carnivorous ones) reciprocate the same ideals to humans that you as a vegan espouse towards animals, I will continue to eat meat. The whole vegan philosophy appears to be that animals have the same rights as humans do and that we should afford them those rights. However if we were not the civilized society that we are, animals would just fuck us up on the daily. Here is the defining difference between humans and animals. I might not agree with veganism, but I understand the principles behind it. Animals will never understand what veganism is. Some might live a "vegan" lifestyle, but they have no conscious idea or reason as to why they do so, other than they just don't eat meat. You may value your life as equal to that of an animal, but an animal will never value your life as equal to its own.
So essentially you are using nature to justify your ethics?
