RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 19, 2014 at 1:34 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2014 at 1:36 pm by James2014.)
(January 19, 2014 at 1:27 pm)Chuck Wrote: No, he is flicking off your justification for you position, and asserting indirectly that his position to not require any justification.
Nope, the ability of animals to reason and hold values to be able to change their behaviour is irrelevant to my argument. Animal behaviour is amoral, humans however have a choices. All animals have to do to be worthy of our ethical consideration is to be able suffer.
He uses nature to justify his argument. its nonsense.
(January 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Chuck Wrote: Most people who eat meat or would like to eat meat if given the option evidently do not.
Reduced suffering of nonhumans do not directly and tangibly benefit humanity. It only benefit those few who are so self important as to elevate their own queasiness to a level above the material benefit of humanity using the canard of "ethics".
No. it benefits the animals, as they can also suffer. If suffering has value, then it makes no sense to say that only human suffering matters, as both human and animal suffering are fundamentally of the same type.
