RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 19, 2014 at 1:37 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2014 at 1:41 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(January 19, 2014 at 1:34 pm)jg2014 Wrote:(January 19, 2014 at 1:27 pm)Chuck Wrote: No, he is flicking off your justification for you position, and asserting indirectly that his position to not require any justification.
Nope, the ability of animals to reason and hold values to be able to change their behaviour is irrelevant to my argument. Animal behaviour is amoral, humans however have a choices. All animals have to do to be worthy of our ethical consideration is to be able suffer.
He uses nature to justify his argument. its nonsense.
Baseless assertion.
Ultimately, the any value relevant to morality is the value to the welfare of the holder of morality. For humanity as the holder of morality welfare I would define as enhanced long term chances of survival.
No matter how much an animal suffers it is unworthy of my ethical consideration unless granting it ethical consideration tangibly strengthens humanity's long term chances of survival.
Humans have choice. But in this case every one we can make other than the only one he animals have to make is an unwarranted and ultimately self-defeating indulgence.
