(January 19, 2014 at 10:13 am)enrico Wrote:(January 16, 2014 at 12:22 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Either you do know union with the infinite or you don't. If you do know, you're boasting. If you don't know it, you speak from ignorance.Do you know, as in having experienced it, union with the infinite? If not, where does your knowledge of how it is attained come from? How can you claim to know the real meaning of yoga if you've never experienced it yourself?
Well, considering your total ignorance about yoga you got to be excused for this silly question.
If i would have reached union with the infinity i wouldn't be here now to struggle trying to reach it.
At the same time as you get closer to this union something within tell you that this is the right way to follow.
A drop of water final destination is to reach the ocean and become one with it.
The drop does not understand why she got to merge into the ocean but something inside make her go ahead.
In her case is the gravity as the consciousness within is in a dormant stage.
Also animals are driven by instinct and by natural laws although the consciousness start kicking in.
In human being where the consciousness is more active there is more and more urgency to finalize the task to reach the goal of life.
You and all other guys in this forum and in all other forums and in all other places on earth and everywhere where there is life also do not know where their final destination is but nevertheless everybody keep on moving forward by listening, asking questions or by any other means.
Why you do that if not by going further and further in your search for the goal of life?
However the difference between yoga and all the rest is that you got a practical method that lead to this union while the rest goes ahead without a proper method and this is a terrible waste of time.
You can reach the goal anyway but it is like to learn something without a teacher. It is a lot harder.
How then you know that yoga lead to union with the infinity?
By climbing the mountain you see and feel more and more excited and you know that the more you climb the excited increase so you know that the peak will be the goal.
When the excitement does not come by using drugs or by any other artificial means then you know that this is the truth.
(January 17, 2014 at 3:43 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: ...and you didn't reconcile your use of near death experience as ACTUAL experience after death. All you've done is make an observation that doctors can be wrong in their pronouncements and then later be surprised. Reading and comprehending complete sentences seems to be as difficult for you as constructing them.
Why would the doctors admit that they were wrong?
You say that.
You may even find some doctors that would admit that they were wrong but maybe you may find other doctors that do not.
It all depend on beliefs however when the heart and brain show no activity you can't really say that the guy is alive, right!
You've managed to miss the point again. Whether or not the doctors admit they were wrong is irrelevant to the truth. If they deem a person dead, and that person gets up a few hours later and is cognitively aware once again, they are not, and therefore were not dead. Prematurely announced as dead? Yes. Near dead? Maybe. But certainly NOT dead.
Don't you understand? This isn't really all that difficult.