Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[James2014]

I don't have to believe, I've been there, done that and know all about it. You see, I now know you are talking out of your previleged city slicker ass. You probably would still juggling yourself from ball to ball in your dad's croutch while I was already helping cows in labour, feeding them, sanitizing their indoor quarters. I also visited many slaughterhouses, including worked on some. Any modern one makes sure the animal doesn't suffer because of ethical reasons and more importantly to them, stressed animals make bad quality meat.

I'm done with you and your pontification attempts, squirm all you want, I'm eating meat, vegetables, whatever and you have no right to tell me what I should or should not eat. Make all the excuses you want, its just whining from a previleged kid. Go join PETA or play with your willy, I'll give 0 fucks about it.

And yet the studies speak for themselves, for example this one http://dx.doi.org/10.7120/09627286.22.4.473 , performed in 2013, "Inadequate stunning occurred in 12.5% (16.7% of bulls, compared with 6.5% other cattle). Bulls displayed symptoms rated the highest level for inferior stun quality three times more frequently than other cattle. Despite being shot accurately, 13.6% bulls were inadequately stunned compared with 3.8% other cattle"

If you value suffering, then one should not eat meat.

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But we are not just talking about people harming people or animals harming people. We are also talking about people harming animals and animals harming animals. If animals should have the same right to life as people do, what are the consequences for an animal that ends the life of another animal? Because your answer seems to have been that animals are amoral and should not be punished for eating other animals. Why am I being held to a higher standard as animals if I am going to be sharing the same rights with them?

Simple, because unlike animals you have the ability to change your behaviour and make decisions based on values. Male animals will frequently fight and kill to mate with a female. The even have characteristics selected for this, as do we. Its ok for animals to do this to each other because they cannot reason, but we are held to a higher standard because we can hold values and change our behaviour.