Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[James2014]

Firstly, any form of killing that prevents an animal from living its full life span is inducing a form of suffering.

No, you don't get to define what suffering is to suit your argument.
And why? why is killing an animal before it dies of old age, suffering?

Secondly, I would argue that life on a farm is far worse. At least in the wild I have a rich and complex environment to explore. On a farm it its monotonous, with every single young animal forcibly removed from its mother. Overfed and over weight, in a dense population were disease is easily spread. Udder infections branding, dehorning, clipping of the chickens beak. Its a horrible life. At least as a wild animals I have a chance.

You have clearly anthropomorphised animals. You are in no position at all to argue this argument.

Lastly, you say that your obsession with meat is not an obsession because it is natural and normal. Sounds like two fallacies in one sentence. Appeal to the people, and to nature.

You are just being dense now. Does the chimpanzee have an obsession with meat because it can eat both meat and plants but sometimes chooses to eat meat? What about the brown bear?
They are omnivores because they require both meat and plant matter. A human is also an omnivore, meaning that eating meat is completely natural and not an obsession, we evolved to do this. A human with an obsession over meat would probably only eat meat..... in fact, I don't even know what an obsession with meat would look like? It is very clear that you have an obsession, of what, i don't know yet.

Firstly just because an animal is old does not mean it is not happy, just as old people can be happy. I want to live as long as I canm, and animals express that same desire. By preventing an animal living its full life you are causing it harm, a form of suffering.

Neither you nor I can say what an animal truly prefers, but you are anthropomorphising animals as much as I, as it was you that said they would prefer life on a farm. the fact is animals that live in rich complex environments are in many ways happier (eg more resistant to depression http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23791932 ) it therefore stands to reason that animals would prefer the wild to the monotony of farms.

The difference between you and a chimpanzee is that you, I hope, are capable of some very complicated cognitive skills, and can hold values to be able to change your behaviour. You are obsessed to the extent that your desire to eat meat has negatively affected these cognitive processes ,so that you ignore the internal contradictions in your arguments to justify your behaviour.