RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 20, 2014 at 2:05 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2014 at 2:18 pm by James2014.)
(January 19, 2014 at 5:36 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Meh, from time to time there is fundie vegan joining here trying to pontificate his superior morality for not eating meat.
Every single day you pontificate your superior morality of animals, subjecting them to horrible cruelty. You are surprised people get passionate about the injustices you perpetrate?
(January 20, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Killing another person for no other reason than eating them is illegal, for good reason. It is very likely that this person knew other people and the psychological damage caused by breaking those relationships is not justified, just so you can eat them. However, if this person was a murderer or a rapist or something that deserved the death penalty, then sure, go ahead. They would only be wasting tax in a life jail sentance.
Ok, so its an old person who didn't have any other family an no other personal relationships. Many old people do live isolated lives, so its entirely feasible. The method the murder uses to kill the person is indistinguishable from dying from natural causes, so no chance of getting caught. Your ethics would say murder is permissible in this circumstances.
(January 20, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Chuck Wrote: If they share those characteristics, then those characteristics could hardly to uniquely human, could they now. That you should cherry pick characteristics to suite what is essentially a fairytale view of humans and animals suggests like most people you began as an infantile dreamer, but unlike most people you never managed to adapt yourself to increased knowledge that come as part of growing up.
A whole section of my argument is based on the fact that animals cannot hold values, so your argument is nonsense. What animals share with us, (episodic memory, consciousness, the ability to suffer) means that we have a duty not to subject them to cruelty.