(January 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm)Chas Wrote: I offered a useful answer to the OP, that a 12-step program can be successfully used by an atheist, since the 'higher power' thing was off-putting.
The bickering is because an ignoramus is making uninformed statements without providing any evidence.
You speak as if you provided some. You should know how it works: You make the claim that AA have some kind of results better from those a person could get by willpower, you provide the evidence. Lying to yourself that they don't try to cram God's or higher powers, while telling you that you are weak, incapable of fighting that fight without going trough the bullshit is not evidence. There are professionals that deal and are trained to help people with addictions. Use the fucking google for something else than confirm your personal bias.
Oh and try to stop projecting your ignorance into me, like I said and its the third time "Et tu Brute?"
