Daystar

[LukeMC]

This however is in flagrant contradiction with all empirical evidence since the beginning of science gathered about the place of earth in the universe and the origin of earth. That evidence equivocally shows that earth is a place in a very big chunk of space and that the latter as seen from the earth only seems as a separate domain called 'the firmament'. Newton (according to anecdote thereby helped by a falling apple) demonstrated quite spectaculary that the heavenly bodies follow the same rules as earthbound objects and called these rules gravity. Later scientific evidence showed that space itself has formed some 13.7 billion years ago and that a prerequisite for earth to exist is space. This means that earth cannot have existed prior to space, the universe itself and that the above biblical account is nothing more than a fabel that fits prescientific views but grossly contradicts the facts as plain as they come.

To ascribe reliability to the bible in the face of this enormous error on it's first page is like defending flat earth theory on board of a space shuttle.

You ought to back this up with some evidence, otherwise Daystar will see no reason to believe you. You talk about real studies and real evidence, but unless you show him the evidence instead of talking about it, he will most likely dismiss your claims.