RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 20, 2014 at 4:59 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2014 at 5:02 pm by Bad Wolf.)
(January 20, 2014 at 1:54 pm)jg2014 Wrote: Firstly animals most certainly do have many human characteristics, do you deny this?
No, humans have animal characteristics. But no the characteristics we share aren't relevant
(January 20, 2014 at 1:54 pm)jg2014 Wrote: Yep, I would say the most people either never think about the rights or wrongs of eating meat or they are so obsessed with it they deny the obvious cruelty it causes.
And again, shout as loud as you want
(January 20, 2014 at 1:54 pm)jg2014 Wrote: To start with, most people would say that abusing for enjoyment an animal is wrong. They believe that animals such as dogs can suffer, and mistreating them is bad But when they consider meat eating, which objectively comprises of comparable cruelty,
No, here is where i'm going to stop you. Mistreating your dog is not the same as eating meat. It is nowhere near the same as that. It is ridiculous to suggest that. No wonder no one is agreeing with you. In most cases mistreating your dog is done on purpose for no other reason than you are taking out stress on a lesser being because you can get away with it. The CEO shouts at the manager, the manager shouts at the employee, the employee kicks the photocopier. No one else here agrees with you, that animals are mistreated or abused on the same level as abusing a dog. Abusing your dog is not necessary to survive but eating meat kinda is.
(January 20, 2014 at 2:05 pm)jg2014 Wrote: Ok, so its an old person who didn't have any other family an no other personal relationships. Many old people do live isolated lives, so its entirely feasible. The method the murder uses to kill the person is indistinguishable from dying from natural causes, so no chance of getting caught. Your ethics would say murder is permissible in this circumstances.
What would be the point of killing them? Is there a reason at all?
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
