RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 21, 2014 at 5:19 am
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2014 at 5:43 am by Aractus.)
(January 20, 2014 at 10:35 am)enrico Wrote: Herbivores do not eat meat (obviously) so how come that their flesh is full of B12?Bacteria in their digestive systems produce it.
(January 20, 2014 at 11:32 am)jg2014 Wrote: 1. Please provide a link to a study that shows vegans have a shorter life expectancy. The study I provided is widely regarded by nutritionists as the best study going. Give it a read. The evidence speaks for itself, and it is why the NHS and the ADS say that being vegans are healthy. If vegans are so deficient then why do the vegans in the study I adventist study live longer than meat eaters?If that's regarded as the best study going then you've just admitted that you have nothing. SDA's that are vegetarian are also non-smokers, AND non-drinkers, AND do not take recreational drugs. About 50% of SDA's are vegetarian. SDA's that are not vegetarian also smoke and drink - the study has not isolated people who's sole lifestyle difference is meat and/or meat products, thus the study cannot make any conclusions based on these criteria.
Quote:2. If a well planned vegan diet is protein deficient, and causes illness in people, then provide a study showing that this is the caseDon't twist my words, it irritates me. I said you don't get any animal protein, and that it's not found in plants. Simple.
Quote:3. you do realise that all people do when they process food is to cook multiple ingredients to make a meal right? its not some type of magical process. Processed food can be unhealthy if too much fat, sugar or salt is added, but then so is food cooked at home. Fundamentally there is no difference between a processed food (eg a microwave pasta meal) and one you cooked at home. Processing food means exactly the same thing as cooking it.Again, I have not been saying that processed foods are "healthy" or "unhealthy". Processed foods are pre-prepared foods. Yes if you cook yourself a casserole to reheat later that would qualify as a processed food, however you well know this isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about pre-packaged processed foods that are processed before you buy the food.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke