Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[James2014]

If that's regarded as the best study going then you've just admitted that you have nothing. SDA's that are vegetarian are also non-smokers, AND non-drinkers, AND do not take recreational drugs. About 50% of SDA's are vegetarian. SDA's that are not vegetarian also smoke and drink - the study has not isolated people who's sole lifestyle difference is meat and/or meat products, thus the study cannot make any conclusions based on these criteria.

The study choose Adventists because they all live such similar lives, ie not smoking, not drinking, not taking drugs! If you were to design a study you would want to ensure that all variables were the same except for the one you were wanting to study. Get it?

Think about it this way. In these Adventists if they are vegan they live longer. Now what else could be causing this? As you say, they don't drink, they don't smoke, they don't take recreational drugs. What are we left with? Many Adventists are vegan, many are also meat eaters, vegetarian or piscetarian. Vegans live longer. simple.

As it says in the study "Strengths of this study include the large number of participants consuming various vegetarian diets; the diverse nature of this cohort in terms of sex, race, geography, and socioeconomic status, enhancing generalizability; the low use of tobacco and alcohol, making residual confounding from these unlikely; the shared religious affiliation of the cohort, which may lead to greater homogeneity across several possible unmeasured confounders, enhancing internal validity; and precise dietary pattern definitions based on measured food intake rather than self-identification of dietary patterns."

Don't twist my words, it irritates me. I said you don't get any animal protein, and that it's not found in plants. Simple.

Yep no animal protein. So what? If this causes any unhealth in vegans who eat a well planned diet then provide a link showing this to be true.