(January 21, 2014 at 12:10 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Ok everyone stop NOW! This has just turned into a giant pissing contest. Lets just agree that neither side is going to change the opinion of the other and leave it at that. Lets take a few deep breaths, count slowly to 10 and turn and walk away.
hmmm, as I said at the beginning, I think atheists and vegans hold much in common including having to challenge social norms and having to find sources of ethics not based on appeals to nature. It is sad that the debate ended with someone writing "fuck off", but hey maybe I should not have suggested you were being stupid. Sorry about that.