RE: Proof A=A
March 6, 2010 at 5:26 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2010 at 5:32 pm by Welsh cake.)
(March 3, 2010 at 9:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: @ cake: what exactly did I rebut? you know a rebut has to counter an actual claim right? You made a baseless assertion which you refuse to backup. I'm assuming by now that your position is lost.A couple of points:
The Trinity isn't a contradiction at all. It's just something held by faith.
If you looked into the exact translations you'd see that God isn't always masculine. So your assertion of maleness is ill founded.
1. You assume many things, the Christian God exists being one of them.
2. How can I 'lose my position' if you can't manage to provide one single persuasive argument for what you believe is true?
3. We're talking about logic, not faith. Or at least you were, but you keep changing the bloody subject whenever it suits you.
4. What translations of the Biblical God's gender are you referring to exactly?
Now fr0d0, there's a difference between logically impossible and unknowable, this is why your earlier claim logic can't refute concepts was erroneous, because it's still an existence claim, one you have the burden of proof for, because god is being put forward as a barely-working hypothesis, and not a theory.
Now proposing the possibility of the existence of highly-evolved beings on other planets or in space itself falls into the category of the unknowable, because such beings may plausibly exist, but without sufficient evidence first there's no way one can ever affirm they actually do, its not supported by logic, but it cannot be refuted either.
Now asserting that an omni-benevolent god that created reality including hell where he torments people for an eternity for not loving him; is omnipresent yet hell is somehow separate from his presence, and so on; falls into the category of the, no no, not unknowable, but logically impossible because it's definition is one unjustifiable claim after another. The concept of an intelligent universe creator cannot be supported by logic, especially when there is evidence to suggest that no god(s) exist or were responsible for the Big Bang, due to a lack of said evidence, therefore sky-daddy (or "sky-transvestite" according to your recent research) is eligible to be refuted by logic.
One would be no less justified by claiming the universe was created by the sneeze of the Invisible Pink Unicorn.
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