RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 23, 2014 at 2:52 pm
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2014 at 2:53 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(January 23, 2014 at 12:57 pm)jg2014 Wrote: I value reducing suffering because I value the experience of conscious creatures more widely, and while reducing suffering is of primary ethical concern, positive emotions are slso of ethical concern. Essentially the fundamental premise of the utilitarian argument, which I support, is an equation which is used to judge if our actions produce more harm or more benefit.
Utilitarian? Grasping at straws, are we?
What is the utility of the positive emotion of an animal? What is the utility of "experience of conscious creatures"?
(January 23, 2014 at 12:57 pm)jg2014 Wrote: With meat though there is no such ambiguity. It is wrong and cruel. Cruel not just to the animals, but .....resulting in years being taken off their life.
A meatless diet doesn't actually make you live longer, it only make your life appear to drag on for longer.
(January 23, 2014 at 12:57 pm)jg2014 Wrote: So you put an animal through the horror of the farm, merely to justify the killing of it to end the suffering you caused it to feel in the first place! You would reduce the suffering of the animal even more by not farming it.
You presume to speak for animals with whom you undoubtedly have profound philosophical conversations?
How do you know animals that wouldn't even exist without farming arn't grateful for their existence and think being killed a necessary end and a worthy price to pay for the chance of being allowed to live at all?
Wish think to justify more wish think.
