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The Category Error of Scientism
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RE: The Category Error of Scientism
Most of what you said is somewhat confused from not reading the entirety of my post in context. Sure, some emergentist theories of, well, anything are reductionist, but certainly not all of them. As I said earlier, there are in fact non-reductionist physicalist theories of mind in philosophy of mind. Otherwise, even emergentist positions are, again, not inherently or even probably reductionist. Thermodynamics is an emergent system that cannot, for example, be reduced to quantum mechanics. It cannot be found there, yet when one scales up to larger systems it's patently there, an example of a complex system not reducible to its constituents.

However, I can't actually remember if that's true. I might just be wrongly remembering something Steven Weinberg said in the "Moving Naturalism Forward" summit.
"The reason things will never get better is because people keep electing these rich cocksuckers who don't give a shit about you."
-George Carlin
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The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 8, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Jacob(smooth) - January 8, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 8, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 8, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 8, 2014 at 5:25 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Belac Enrobso - January 8, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Angrboda - January 8, 2014 at 5:39 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Belac Enrobso - January 8, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by mralstoner - January 8, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by bennyboy - January 8, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 8, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by EgoRaptor - January 8, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 8, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by EgoRaptor - January 8, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by MindForgedManacle - January 8, 2014 at 11:28 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 22, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by MindForgedManacle - January 23, 2014 at 1:20 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Angrboda - January 22, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Brakeman - January 22, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Mudhammam - January 22, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 24, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by MindForgedManacle - January 25, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Odysseus - January 23, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Mister Agenda - January 23, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 23, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by MindForgedManacle - January 23, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Odysseus - January 24, 2014 at 3:36 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by MindForgedManacle - January 24, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Odysseus - January 25, 2014 at 3:45 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 25, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by MindForgedManacle - January 25, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 25, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 24, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Anomalocaris - January 24, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by MindForgedManacle - January 25, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Odysseus - January 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Angrboda - January 26, 2014 at 3:15 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Odysseus - January 27, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 28, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Mudhammam - January 28, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 28, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 28, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Silver - January 28, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Angrboda - January 29, 2014 at 3:17 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 29, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Angrboda - January 29, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Neo-Scholastic - February 1, 2014 at 12:24 am
RE: The Category Error of Scientism - by Angrboda - February 2, 2014 at 12:00 am

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