RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
January 29, 2014 at 2:57 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2014 at 3:22 pm by James2014.)
(January 29, 2014 at 2:27 pm)KUSA Wrote:(January 29, 2014 at 1:33 pm)jg2014 Wrote: plants don't suffer so killing them is of no ethical concern.
Wrong again!
http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/sc/web...nd-to-pain
Nope. There is a difference between nociception (or whatever the analogous process in plants is) and the actual perception of pain. Plants are able to detect stimuli and activate a set of pre-encoded effects, but they are not able to learn associatively, and they are not able to integrate multiple sensory inputs to create new representations of the world to actually be conscious and experience pain. Animals can.
If you were to actively search out evidence for and against plants being able to feel pain, instead of mindlessly typing into google something like "plants feel pain", you would immediately see the link you posted was nonsense.
(January 29, 2014 at 2:33 pm)LastPoet Wrote: That's where the cookie crumbles, VegFundies (to distinguish from those that are and don't care about what others eat), don't consider that plants may also suffer. In their insanity, they contribute and perpetuate the lies for ethics & health just to pretend to be on a moral high ground.
VegFundies? Well vegans and vegetarians are not the ones killing others in the name of their beliefs, whereas meat eaters certainly are.
Lies of heath? Are you kidding me? Let alone all the evidence I have posted, why would the biggest professional body of nutritionists (the ADA , although now called the AND) in the US, and indeed the world, agree that a vegan and vegetarian diet is healthy and protective against a number of diseases? You know the the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that is recognized by the United States Department of Education as the only accrediting agency for professional dietetic education programs? Are they all lying too?