(January 31, 2014 at 11:25 am)Stue Denim Wrote:This will be a bit dull but okay, here's a quick lesson in business analysis and process design.Quote: All work of value is of equal value because any product is equally dependent on all facets of its generation for its output.Huh, what? Mind expanding on this?
Imagine a theoretical product. Anything; physical, intellectual, whatever. Got something in mind? OK. Now imagine its production; all the necessary components to generate the desired output that is the purpose of the product: scripting, art, design, analysis, engineering, coding, testing, authorship, governance, legal, management, logistics, customer relations, consultancy, marketing, sales, housekeeping, catering, vehicle hire, entertainment, direction... of all the millions of potential categories of work, you've selected a list that's relevant to your product's output and organised it into a method of delivering the promise of your product. Once you've eliminated the 'waste' from those processes (I won't go into details here because 'waste' is a topic unto itself), you're left with a 'critical path' or 'value chain/stream': the minimum number of processes required, with each step of the process generating value. This is the 'work of value': all of it is necessary to generate the desired output and if you miss one step, one process, the desired output is not generated.
Thus all work of value is of equal value.
Quote:Yes it is: if a person were to misappropriate funds from individuals in exactly the same way, they would be guilty of criminal offenses. It's only due to legal loopholes available to corporations (and only larger corporations, to boot - screw the little/local businessman) that any pretense of legality is maintained. But let's not beat around the bush: pay low wages, people die.Quote: To deliberately misrepresent this, as is done by those who unethically profiteer from low wages, is to commit a crime.Not yet it isn't, comrade.
Quote:I goggled "all work of value is of equal value…" because it seemed fishy, no results. I then cropped it to just "all work of value is of equal value", which produced one hit. Atheistforums.org. A post of yours in this thread in particular: https://atheistforums.org/thread-22220-page-16.htmlIt's my wording but it's hardly an original idea. Google W.E. Demming, Peter Drucker, Gary Hamel, Ricardo Semler, Taichi Ohno, John Seddon for how businesses have been applying these principles for decades, ethically.
Although I'm secretly disappointed that you didn't get more hits on what's essentially my catch-phrase at work. I need to improve my profile & marketing. Where's my LinkedIn page...
Quote:'All work is of equal value' is a political phrase that means very little in the real world: is there value in having to do your job twice? How about people who's only job is to fix the mistakes of others? Those who have to take complaint calls due to sub-standard parts? All of those jobs might be examples of waste, unnecessary jobs that are caused by errors, failures or simply poor design. So clearly, 'No': not all work is of equal value. Only work of value is valuable and all value is equal because without all the work, the desired results can't be achieved.Quote: Also, those who understand labour principles know that all work of value is of equal value.As I clearly doesn't understand labour principles (or I am trying to mislead, mwuhoohahahahaha), mind explaining? Searching for "all work is of equal value" brings up a tonne of hits, but you're little qualifier seems unique.
Enough for now. I'll let that lot sink in before I address the rest of your post.
Sum ergo sum