Smut for Smut

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Rudeness does impose on others, that is the nature of it being rude. May be your first amendment right to say and think what you will trumps someone elses supposed (but not amended) right to not be offended. But isn't it a double standard?

Everyone has the right to be offended. They are expressing that right by being offended. Some people, mostly religious, think that other shouldn't be able to criticize their methods. Civil rights and etiquette are not the same thing, not even close. It's not a double standard when one group actively imposes on the civil rights of others on a daily basis, while the other tries to get a rise out of people. It's not the same thing.

Christianity is annoying and in your face. So these Atheists from Bean Town are annoying and in your face. And I point out, 'hey those guys are being annoying on purpose', and it seems your response is 'Christians are asshole too!'. I know that this group isn't you, and that some college kids in Mass don't represent atheism proper, that it is much looser than that. It just reminds me of the post from a while ago that showed the prank callers. Someone wrote "We need more people like that in the world", and I was flabbergasted. We need more people willing to put it all on the line, to take a risk and make a prank phone call. It seems that immaturity and silliness are commendable if they are on your side of the argument.

I don't care what side of the argument they're on. If they're funny, they're funny.

If I were them, I would trade bibles for Dawkins <shudder>. Something that didn't tie my beliefs in with immorality and smut. If I were really them I would be happy to respect others beliefs.

So peddling a book entitled "The God Delusion" to believers wouldn't be considered immoral by those you're proselytizing to? Being happy to respect others' beliefs is all well and good when others aren't imposing on your rights. I've said this twenty times already. If you see a group gaining ground that hinders the progression of civil and human rights, you have a right to protest. Being rude isn't a breach of rights, it's bad etiquette, but nothing that people can't forget about after a few minutes.

If I were really, really them I would realize that there is no way that this reality came into existence by sheer chance alone, and I would convert from atheism...

Personal incredulity rears its ugly head.

"I can't imagine how natural processes could develop the world, so it must have been God!"

Keep your arguments from ignorance to yourself.

No. I find most sex disgusting. Not just peeing on people, or this infamous guys and cups thing. The way people act at the bar, like rutting animals. The way people compromise themselves just to feel good, to pretend to be loved. I know a very lot about unhealthy relationships with objects, being a lay Buddhist and an ex drug addict. Modern sex is a drug. You do it as much as possible. You can get books to help you do it better. I try to leave sex where is belongs, sacred sharing, and making babies. Sex is far to serious to be a game. And then there's dominance for the sake of dominance... I just don't like porn. It demeans the actor, sure, but most importantly it affects your neurology in a negative way. But I remember how this goes. If you guys love porn, and can't even understand how some of us would think there is anything wrong with it, please feel free.

So I'm guessing you haven't had any sexually exploratory relationships. When you're with someone for a while, you realize that the physical demands are just as important as emotional needs. I'm not saying you should love porn, but to hate it as if it's humanity's downfall is a HUGE stretch. Everyone can have vices, whether it be porn or constructing model trains. Too much of anything can be a bad thing.

I don't think they're being rude for the sake of being rude, but then again... The desired effect was to get a rise, I know. They did, I know. But can't I scoff at that?

Sure you can, just like I can call you out on inconsistencies in your argument.

It is not whether or not they are willing. That most porn (and here, like with my hating TV and other things, I have to admit my knowledge of the subject) is about male dominance.

More men watch porn. It's a matter or marketing to the public and catering to the people who use the product the most. No surprise there.

Fucking the shit out of a girl. Girls love giving head, they can even reach orgasm. You girlfriend should be lucky enough to get to give you head. Girls like going ass to mouth. Oh wait, it's probably abhorrent to them, but the man makes them do it anyways. Dominance.

Not all porn is like this, and there ARE girls out there that do this. It's also meant to be based in fantasy, not reality.

That is not teaching you to be a better lover. Porn desensitizes you neural response to sex, thereby making sex less enjoyable, not more so. Porn objectifies the woman (and the man), thereby teaching you unhealthy standards, again not really helping in the bedroom. Porn is the best example of the mental effect and damage that the invention of moving pictures can create.

Porn isn't relationship advice, nor should it be taken as a literal interpretation of how to treat your lover. However, it can greatly excite both partners and re-ignite flames of passion in a monotonous physical relationship. It can be a breath of fresh air for couples willing to do something new. Many sex therapists consider watching porn to be mutually beneficial for a couple dealing with a smaller sex drive.

I hate porn because it is clearly a weapon. It was a poor idea in the past, but now it is designed to do as much damage to the minds of young people as possible. Go do some research about porn addiction, or just porn in general. The whole thing about 'I use to like dykes, but now I've progressed to dog on dog action'. Why are people watching more and more sicker and sicker porn? Not because it is opening their horizons, but because they need to push harder to release the brain chemicals they want. Very clearly an unhealthy relationship with an object.

Thank you.

"Clearly a weapon" is a very misconstrued and ignorant statement. It's made primarily to provide a service for money, as many people have varying sexual fetishes and preferences. Curiosity progresses, much like the fact that people search wikipedia for hours, exploring various subjects. The same goes for porn. I've seen the depths of the most depraved things on the internet, and I understand that I don't like any of the actions portrayed there. I don't consider it a weapon as much as I consider it a release of sexual inhibitions.

People watch "sicker" porn as a result of their curiosity and the ease and accessibility of the internet, not as a function of porn itself. It's not a slippery slope if you don't treat it like a life lesson, and even if you do, you probably have bigger problems than going to porn for advice with love.

I'll elaborate more a bit later.