RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 2, 2014 at 8:21 am
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2014 at 8:29 am by Aractus.)
(February 1, 2014 at 7:35 am)là bạn điên Wrote: Define 'weed' if you are capable? I don't give a shit where you live.Weed (n) - a prolific and/or hostile plant.
http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-...resources/
As for your PETA link, you know that PETA has no credibility I'm not going to insult your intelligence by assuming that you don't.
From your link:
- It takes up to 13 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of meat, and even fish on fish farms must be fed up to 5 pounds of wild-caught fish to produce 1 pound of farmed fish flesh.
Try this:
- It Does Not Take 7 kg Of Grain To Make 1 kg Of Beef: Be Very Careful With Your Statistics
The problem with this number is that while it is possible to use 7 kg of grain to make 1 kg of beef it is not necessary to do so. The number has in fact been formulated for one reason and is then being used, hopelessly inaccurately, for entirely another.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/...tatistics/
Consider:
The efficiency with which various animals convert grain into protein varies widely. With cattle in feedlots, it takes roughly 7 kilograms of grain to produce a 1-kilogram gain in live weight. For pork, the figure is close to 4 kilograms of grain per kilogram of weight gain, for poultry it is just over 2, and for herbivorous species of farmed fish (such as carp, tilapia, and catfish), it is less than 2. (source).
So now you know that you can produce each pound of chicken with two pounds of feed - not 7 and certainly not 13.
Furthermore these figures are based on animals fed only by feed in the US:
It is only in US or US style feedlot operations than cattle are fed on this much grain. Thus the equation is useful if you want information about what is going to happen with US cattle and grain futures: for that’s the general production method feeding those cattle futures. But very little of the rest of the world uses these feedlots as their production methods. I’m not certain whether we have any at all in the UK for example, would be surprised if there were many in the EU. Around where I live in Portugal pigs forage for acorns (yes, from the same oak trees that give us cork) or are fed on swill, goats and sheep graze on fields that would support no form of arable farming at all (they can just about, sometimes, support low levels of almond, olive or carob growing). Much beef cattle in the UK is grass fed with perhaps hay or silage in the winters. (Forbes)
The majority of Australian cattle is primarily grass-fed. Here's a link with the numbers. Grain is used for fattening most cattle that are bred for beef, but overall their main diet is grass.
So no, I don't give a shit about what goes on in America and skewing numbers to suit your agenda. Raising cattle and sheep are very efficient uses of land for the yield.
(February 1, 2014 at 8:43 am)enrico Wrote: It is well known that to produce a KG. of meat it need over 10 KG of veg. proteins that is why the natural world is today devastated by clearing the land in order to plant veg. proteins like soia to feed the cattle.See my response above - you are completely wrong.
Please tell me where i am wrong.
(February 1, 2014 at 12:22 pm)StoryBook Wrote: Our body's are designed to eat BOTH meat and veggies. I'm not going to go against my body's cravings because you say so.Yes and our bodies give us cravings for certain foods if our diets are missing important nutrients.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke