(February 4, 2014 at 4:02 am)futilethewinds Wrote: Meat eater code for: I have nothing useful to contribute, so I will just be a dick.It's not trolling since it is difficult to satisfy our taste buds with a vegan diet. You can kick up the biggest fuss you like, but them's the facts.
No ancient society has ever thrived on a vegan or vegetarian diet - despite the fact that you and the other vegans here keep claiming that it's easier, cheaper and more efficient to get our nutrition without meat. Think about that for a second. For all the diseases that meat may have brought when it was less hygienic than it is today, and all the other disadvantages to it, it had to still have advantages that outweighed the costs or otherwise we'd have ancient societies that thrived without any meat!
Vegans in fact know that meat is delicious, and that's why much of the processed vegan food they eat has MSG's and artificial flavours added (and consequently carcinogens) - you wouldn't need to add these if the flavour obtained purely from unprocessed vegan foods was enough to satisfy our taste buds. That's cheating. And it's really not healthy either. So much for your cancer-causing pseudo-meat patties.
So I'll say this once again - vegetarian diets can be healthy. But if you're replacing meat with processed foods containing MSG then you're aren't better off than you were eating meat, you're worse off.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke