(February 4, 2014 at 8:19 am)Aractus Wrote: No ancient society has ever thrived on a vegan or vegetarian diet - despite the fact that you and the other vegans here keep claiming that it's easier, cheaper and more efficient to get our nutrition without meat. Think about that for a second. For all the diseases that meat may have brought when it was less hygienic than it is today, and all the other disadvantages to it, it had to still have advantages that outweighed the costs or otherwise we'd have ancient societies that thrived without any meat!
Vegans in fact know that meat is delicious, and that's why much of the processed vegan food they eat has MSG's and artificial flavours added (and consequently carcinogens) - you wouldn't need to add these if the flavour obtained purely from unprocessed vegan foods was enough to satisfy our taste buds. That's cheating. And it's really not healthy either. So much for your cancer-causing pseudo-meat patties.
So I'll say this once again - vegetarian diets can be healthy. But if you're replacing meat with processed foods containing MSG then you're aren't better off than you were eating meat, you're worse off.
As for vegetarian diets in ancient societies, many Hindus and Buddhists have indeed thrived on this diet. On a vegan diet, while one could argue that Jains have thrived on this, it is only now as we can make B12 from bacteria and a firm understanding of physiology that has enabled us to live a healthy vegan diet. And the facts speak for themselves vegans are healthier.
Show me some actual evidence that "artificial" vegan food actually causes cancer. Now compare that lack of evidence with the overwhelming evidence that meat causes cancer. Vegan food is delicious, and it also doesn't cause that feeling of disgust at having brutally murdered another conscious being, which definitely adds to the flavour
