(February 4, 2014 at 9:00 am)bennyboy Wrote: I kind of agree to a degree. I think simulated "meats" are basically vegetarian porn-- it's not the real thing, but it stimulates enough of those neurons to make it pleasurable in its own way. But the fact that vegans eat anything formed to look like meat is a pretty obvious acknowledgement that meat-eating is part of our nature, at least on an instinct level.The problem isn't that it's formed to look like meat, but rather that it's formed to taste like meat. To achieve this the foods are usually high in salt and contain msg.

Daiya "vean cheese" also contains MSG. Doesn't matter if it's naturally derived or not, MSG is bad for you. Just like many other things you shouldn't eat. Just like say tobacco, or death cap mushrooms. Both of those are 100% natural too.
Quote:As for MSG and artificial flavors-- I've never heard of vegan foods being full of garbage.Well now you have.
Quote:That seems antithetical to the "purity" of controlling your food intake. I always check ingredients on everything, and if there are chemical names, I have to look them up, and if they can be animal sourced, I have to contact the company and specifically ask if they can guarantee a vegetable source.Well the packet can say "flavour enhancer 621" or "yeast extract" and either way it means MSG.
While we're on the topic the "Daiya" fake-cheese is way less healthy:
Bega Light Cheese (shredded):
Per 28g serving.
Calories: 78
Protein: 9.6g
Fat (total): 4.3g
Fat (saturated): 2.7g
Carbohydrate: 0g
Sugars: 0g
Sodium: 159.6mg
Calcium: 278.6
Contains no MSG
Compare this to the fake product:
Per 28g serving.
Calories: 90
Protein: 1g
Fat (total): 6g
Fat (saturated): 2g
Carbohydrate: 7g
Sugars: 0g
Sodium: 250mg
Contains MSG!
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke