RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 5, 2014 at 3:21 am
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2014 at 3:39 am by bennyboy.)
Let's try some links, with clear, short comments (the way I suggested earlier):
WCRF Findings (article)
Conclusion:
-lower cancer risk among vegetarians and fish-eaters than red-meat eaters
Caveat:
-those groups also correlate with OTHER behaviors: general fitness interest, etc. which could be responsible, so no causal link proven
Vegan Health
Reading at "Meta-Analysis 1999")
Conclusion:
-vegetarians, Fish-eaters and Lacto-Ovo vegetarians had significantly lower specific death rates (certain cancers etc.)
-vegans did no better than regular meat eaters in any category
-vegans' #1 single cause of death was heart disease (sorry futilethewinds!)
Caveat:
-in 1999, issues with vitamin B12 were not well-known, so newer studies may show improvements for vegans, at least relative to 1999. Note that even in the 1999 study, vegans (not other vegetarians) were not WORSE off than regular meat eaters in any measure of mortality, which seems to debunk the idea that eating red meat is necessary.
(Reading at "Epic-Oxford: Preliminary Results 2003")
Conclusion
-vegans have greater rate of bone fractures than meat-eaters
Caveat:
-those vegans whose calcium intake was adequate did not suffer a greater rate of bone fractures.
Overall Conclusion:
Re B12:
B12 sources
Vegetarians are 100% fine for both B12 and protein, if they consume dairy. The link claims "Marmite," a yeast-based spread, has 8% of DV B12 / 100g, so you'd need about 3 pounds a day! Many breakfast cereals are fortified with vitamins, including B12. I've found some that list all ingredients, and taste great with soya milk (which is also often fortified).
Caveat: none of the vegan sources of B12 I could find are natural, except maybe for some kinds of algae/seaweed. They all require working with bacterial cultures and extracting the B12 in an industrial setting in order to produce useable supplements.
http://chriskresser.com/what-everyone-es...deficiency
Conclusion: According to this article (which I didn't read), more reliable tests for B12 deficiency are quite damning, both for lacto-ovo vegetarians and especially for vegans.
Caveat: None mentioned
WCRF Findings (article)
Conclusion:
-lower cancer risk among vegetarians and fish-eaters than red-meat eaters
Caveat:
-those groups also correlate with OTHER behaviors: general fitness interest, etc. which could be responsible, so no causal link proven
Vegan Health
Reading at "Meta-Analysis 1999")
Conclusion:
-vegetarians, Fish-eaters and Lacto-Ovo vegetarians had significantly lower specific death rates (certain cancers etc.)
-vegans did no better than regular meat eaters in any category
-vegans' #1 single cause of death was heart disease (sorry futilethewinds!)
Caveat:
-in 1999, issues with vitamin B12 were not well-known, so newer studies may show improvements for vegans, at least relative to 1999. Note that even in the 1999 study, vegans (not other vegetarians) were not WORSE off than regular meat eaters in any measure of mortality, which seems to debunk the idea that eating red meat is necessary.
(Reading at "Epic-Oxford: Preliminary Results 2003")
Conclusion
-vegans have greater rate of bone fractures than meat-eaters
Caveat:
-those vegans whose calcium intake was adequate did not suffer a greater rate of bone fractures.
Overall Conclusion:
Quote:In summary, not enough is yet known about vegan mortality to draw any conclusions other than that vegans do not have unusually high rates of mortality and they probably do better than the average person due either to diet or a healthier lifestyle.
Re B12:
B12 sources
Vegetarians are 100% fine for both B12 and protein, if they consume dairy. The link claims "Marmite," a yeast-based spread, has 8% of DV B12 / 100g, so you'd need about 3 pounds a day! Many breakfast cereals are fortified with vitamins, including B12. I've found some that list all ingredients, and taste great with soya milk (which is also often fortified).
Caveat: none of the vegan sources of B12 I could find are natural, except maybe for some kinds of algae/seaweed. They all require working with bacterial cultures and extracting the B12 in an industrial setting in order to produce useable supplements.
http://chriskresser.com/what-everyone-es...deficiency
Conclusion: According to this article (which I didn't read), more reliable tests for B12 deficiency are quite damning, both for lacto-ovo vegetarians and especially for vegans.
Caveat: None mentioned
