(December 13, 2008 at 4:06 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:Daystar fails to make the distinction between first person assessment and third person assessment. Only an all-knowing entity can assess the truth of a claim on absolute truth.(December 13, 2008 at 2:11 pm)Daystar Wrote: Those with more knowledge on the subject, you mean.You are an expert on a book that certainly does NOT mean that book is self-evident to be the truth of God. Or at least his existence. How could it be?
To say that you know that statement X is absolute truth is to say that you can validate absolute truth. To be able to validate a statement for absolute truthness one would need absolute truth in the first place. Otherwise one is validating a statement with fallible faculties.
To say that (A) you believe it to be absolute truth is quite different from (B) asserting that it is absolute truth and using that assertion as evidence. One will have to be able to read the mind of god to truthfully state (B).
As Daystar is human and fallible however he can't use argument (B). His only option is to join the rest of infallible mankind. He might be able to understand this argument but if he is willing to I'm not sure.
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Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0