(January 24, 2014 at 9:28 pm)snowtracks Wrote: naturalism demands that information originates from mindless matter, and the living from the nonliving; well of course this has never been demonstated and even fails on a thought experiment basis.
in the field of synthetic biology the goal is produce non-natural artificial cells. the following shows that detailed blueprint information is required for creating these artificial cells. an example - a team of scientists (quantum chemists, molecular biologists, biochemists, etc) created a 'designer enzyme'. in the article ref. below - Houk's team of 30 computational chemists uses quantum mechanical calculations to explore chemical reactions with supercomputers. Quantum mechanics is the fundamental theory that can predict all chemistry. Houk and Baker's research groups have worked together for three years. Using algorithms and supercomputers, the UCLA chemists design the active site for the enzymes — the area of the enzymes in which the chemical reactions take place — and give a blueprint for the active site to their University of Washington colleagues. Baker and his group then use their computer programs to design a sequence of amino acids that fold to produce an active site like the one designed by Houk's group; Baker's group produces the enzymes.
copious amounts of information was used to construct this designer enzyme and the scientists (an intelligents) already had the blueprint; mindless matter can't do this.
http://www.outlookseries.com/news/Science/3203.htm -
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.