RE: Personhood
February 10, 2014 at 12:45 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2014 at 12:50 pm by là bạn điên.)
(February 10, 2014 at 11:03 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: So my mother got mad at me for referring to this
as an "it". She seems to think that once you're born you're automatically a person. And apparently I should be more sympathetic have a congenital cephalic disorder (hydrocephalus) of my own. but I told her that it doesn't have a brain therefore it doesn't think or feel, and so it's not a person. I also told her the woman that gave birth to it was selfish because all that time and medicine should have gone to actual children. What do you guys think? Is being "alive" enough to establish the title person? Am I being unnecessarily harsh?
The baby should have been euthanised. It just costs a fortune, has no awareness and will never recover. I would have died 20 years ago.
(February 10, 2014 at 11:25 am)No_God Wrote: So my cousin who overdosed on heroin, who was completely brain dead, wasn't a person? He was an "it" because his brain didn't function? OR my daughter who was found to lack brain function when she was in utero?
This makes absolutely no sense to me... how can you call that baby an "it" and just write it off like it means less than dog shit. To me this seems heartless and just insulting. Abortion in these situations is completely subjective. It depends on the mother, her family, and her options at the time. Not everyone terminates pregnancies with birth defects. I did, but I would never judge another for their choices on terminating or not. I had an induction abortion at 27 weeks and I considered my daughter to be a person. I wasn't ready or even able to bring a severely mentally and physically disabled person into this world and neither was her father, his family, or my family. She was a person, not an it, I saw her... So, I take this as an insult when you call this baby an "it".
How could you be so insensitive? I think you should really think about using a little more empathy and being more sensitive to people's feelings on the matter. You never know who you are talking to or who knows more than you on these subjects.
yes your cousin was no longer a person in any meaningful sense and so was your daughter. Take an insult if you wish but it changes nothing. This is a place to discuss things that are unpalatable to some.
(February 10, 2014 at 11:54 am)No_God Wrote: I don't mean to be an asshole about this but it really hits home with me. It would be a shame if this little baby was robbed of it's dignity and defined as "not a person".
The baby has no dignity. It has no feelings at all.
Some may call them junk, I call them treasures.