(February 11, 2014 at 7:22 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: There is no way it would even be possible to prove the existence of God with scientific evidence so you just have to make do with some faith and reason.Science eventually reaches a consensus on those matters it is able to research and experiment upon. "Faith and reason" have not even led people who have the same basic beliefs to anything even approaching consensus. How many different Christian denominations are there? How many were there almost before the Christian church was even formed? It seems to me that using faith to drive your reasoning doesn't work and never has, otherwise there'd have been a consensus long ago.
The universe you describe as being a product of god is identical to the one I describe as NOT being a product of god. That would change in an instant if god stopped hiding in his metaphysical closet, even if it was just to help his believers get their stories straight.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
