(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: If it would be natural for ominids or humans to kill and eat meat then they would have been provided by mother nature with strong canine teethWrong, for reasons I have already told you
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: and a digestive system able to process meat but as we can see we haven't not.Yes we do, we have a digestive system that can process meat. How can you even argue otherwise?
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: So what it means the evidence that even caveman were eating meat?The very fact that your cavemen could eat meat means that they were omnivores. Situation and preference is irrelevant. Your whole point here is irrelevant.
As i already explained in previous post it means that during hard times man restore to eating whatever is available and even during easier times he can carry on with this unnatural habit.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: People like you that behave like Gandhi or the Dalai Lama do more damage that meat eaters.
Meat eaters will learn the hard way when vascular diseases will strike when their arteries will choke because of saturated fats, bad cholesterol and toxins coming mainly from meat eating so they one day will shut up and the meat policy will finally change but you with your refusal to fight and have compassion for those who cause problem for everybody will serve to procrastinate the rot.
Enrico, I weigh 56 Kilograms and am perfectly healthy and I eat meat. Trust me its not the meat that makes fat people fat and their arteries choke. Its the quantities that they eat that does that. We are 70% water or something like that but we can still die from drinking too much water.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: Humans follow similar problems as their body can not deal with meat eating.Lying again. Enrico, there is no debate here. There is no argument. Humans have been eating meat for as long as you could classify them as human ie hundreds of thousands of years. We can deal with eating meat.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: The difference between herbivorous and man is that while man has the capacity to make decisions (in this case wrong one) animals can not and they are really stuck with instinct and their instinct tell them what to eat and what not to eat.
Animals can't make decisions? interesting theory except that lions for example need to be taught how to hunt animals and how to hunt different animals. Birds make decisions whether or not to try and eat a certain insect based off of its colours.
I'll say it again, you really don't know what you are talking about.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: Unnatural cooked food like meat may well be easy to digest but what this has got to do with the natural human being food like fruit and nuts which if you cook you will ruin their nutritional value?
One of your points back there was that humans can't digest meat (which was wrong) Now you are agreeing that cooked meat is easier to digest. Can you not see the contradiction? By your warped reality, humans eating any kind of meat is impossible.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: Garbage.
Fruit and nuts need no fire.
(Slow clapping)
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: So you mean that humans had to wait to eat meat until they develop the mental capacity to fabricate spears or other instruments?
Well in the meantime which could last thousand of years you reckon they only feed on carcasses?
You are a real joke boy!
All your ignorance is coming from a fundamental misunderstanding of evolution. Humans did not have to wait to eat meat until they developed the mental capacity to fabricate spears because they were not human, you could not classify them as human. I'm not denying that if you go back far enough along our evolutionary tree you will find an ancestor species of ours that ate exclusively meat or plants. But that is irrelevant. Your claim is that human beings are not omnivores.
Early humans didn't need spears any way. Chimps hunt without spears, as do baboons. All the tools did was make hunting more efficient. The time scales we are talking about here are impossible for anyone to truly fathom and appreciate but this particularly applies to you. You have shown a complete ignorance of all things biological. You are really a lost cause.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: Again, how did they hunt before they had enough brains to invent weapons?
You don't need brains to hunt. And besides chimps use tools. There have been documented cases of chimps using spears to hunt. And it is common for them to fish for termites using a slender twig. Some monkeys crack shells and nuts with heavy stones. The fact that relatively unintelligent animals (compared to us) can use tools, implies that you don't need to be too clever to make them. Early humans would have been as smart and indeed smarter than todays chimps which are on the same level as a 5 year old.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: Did i say something different?
I was pointing out that your argument about hippos was irrelevant as their tusks had nothing to do with eating at all.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: You are running too fast with your imagination.
1) Having teeth to deal with chewing meat has nothing to do with having a digestive system able to digest it.
If you understand evolution, having the teeth to deal with chewing meat, kind of guarantees that an animal can also digest it. And we can, so that point there is irrelevant.
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: 2) We have very small canine teeth which you can not compare with the teeth of omnivore creature.
I have already explained to you why we don't have big canine teeth. If you aren't going to listen and look at the evidence.....
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: Peer review are important but they don't mean that what they say is truth all the time.
Peer review is the only way of making sure that someone's findings are accurate, reliable and valid, you ignorant twat.
So know i'm going to go ahead and assume that you don't have any evidence for what you are saying so now i'm going to invoke Hitches Razor. (You might need to look that up, dumbass)
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: If what they say is true that meat is necessary
If what 'who' say is true?
(February 11, 2014 at 10:19 am)enrico Wrote: then the hospitals would be almost empty but as we know they are crammed with people who suffer with vascular diseases and that is due to saturated fats, bad cholesterol and toxins coming mainly from a meat diet.
Aaaaaaand yet again no evidence to back up your assertions.
Enrico, seriously now. Fuck off. Go away. You are so hopelessly ignorant of the world around you that there is no point trying to educate you and I can guess that anyone who has ever tried gave up. Mainly due to your amazing arrogance. How do you do it? You demonstrably know so little about everything you talk about yet you type away assured that you are right by your own ego. It must be so difficult to be so intellectually dishonest, ignorant and bankrupt all at the same time. How do you do it? How do you live with yourself?
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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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