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RE: An unanswerable question

February 16, 2014 at 3:51 am (This post was last modified: February 16, 2014 at 4:03 am by Jacob(smooth).)

(February 16, 2014 at 12:55 am)Drich Wrote: [quote='Jacob(smooth)' pid='603680' dateline='1392454671']

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. An abortion is an abortion. Killing a baby is killing a baby. Unless you can't tell the difference between a cluster of cells with no neurological system and a functioning juvenile human this comment is just ridiculous.

If Christians cared more about accuracy and less about cool sounding soundbites people might take us more seriously.

http://youtu.be/-WiQNPk_2G8

Not really an answer there. Let me try to state the issue a bit more clearly.

this

Is a fertilized human embryo, which never embedded because the parent was using an IUD.

this

Is a fetus at 8 weeks. It would look pretty similar if it was a monkey. A very basic neurological system, still no more ability to reason than a hampster.

this

Is a fetus at 35 weeks. Many thousands of these get born every year.

And just for a baseline, this

Is an baby, dashed on rocks (disturbing image, I wouldn't look).

Now, here is the tricky bit...

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!!!!!

A statement like "abortion is the same as killing babies" conflates killing all of the above as essentially the same. And its not. Its really not. Most people agree that the last two are wrong (well, the last one is OK if God told us to do it but you get the point). Most people agree that the first is OK (else iuds would "kill more babies" than every abortion clinic on the planet). So there is a sensible debate to be had about what stage in between is OK. A debate which can't happen all the time we try to convince the world a single cell is the same as a viable fetus.

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Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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