RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 9:54 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2014 at 9:59 am by Bad Wolf.)
(February 20, 2014 at 9:28 am)jg2014 Wrote: As I already said, he is taking nonsense most of the time. But that does not mean that there are not grains of truth here and there.
No there is not. He is saying that all cardiovascular diseases are caused, single handedly, by meat. He is also saying that sick people in hospitals are sick and stay sick because of eating meat.
(February 20, 2014 at 9:28 am)jg2014 Wrote: Another example is the similarity between the effects of taking certain drugs and meat. Both can cause activation of dopaminergic neurons to cause feelings of pleasure.
That doesn't mean anything. The pleasure pathway is activated whenever we do something we like. In fact, that is why we like doing it. It could be anything from getting a high score on pac man to playing the piano.
(February 20, 2014 at 9:28 am)jg2014 Wrote: Different mechanisms are involved of course, and I don't believe people can be addicted to meat in same way as one can be addicted to drugs, but you could argue that the pleasure meat brings reinforces the attempts to ethically justify it.
As does anything else. Meat is not unique in this aspect. Stop encouraging him.
(February 20, 2014 at 9:49 am)enrico Wrote: You know boy that before i worked as a nurse i was driving taxis in Sydney.
Well i tell you something.
In those times (in the 80) the law was not very clear whether the passengers were allow or not to smoke in the taxis so everyday i and all other non smoking drivers had to put up with smokers who insist in smoking in the taxis.
Most of the time smokers understand our feeling and didn't smoke but sometime we had to argue and in some occasion even had a physical clash.
Anyway what most of the smokers were saying was that even the pollution that my taxi was generating produce cancer.
How can you argue with such idiots.
Even if you tell them that there is a difference between something that is essential like a taxi and something NON essential like tobacco smoking they still wouldn't understand.
The same story is repeated with meat negationists like you that come up with the story that even deodorant may cause diseases.
Once again. You fucking idiot. I was not at all implying that deodorant causes disease. I was comparing meat with deodorant in an attempt to show you how unfounded your accusations are. Clearly it didn't work since you didn't understand the simply point I was making.
(February 20, 2014 at 9:49 am)enrico Wrote: Well let me tell you how the story ended up.
After 10 years of putting up with these rotten smokers finally the N.S.W. government finally pass a law that prevent smokers not only to smoke in taxis if the driver put up a sign with NO SMOKING but also prevent smokers to smoke in other public transport, shopping centers and gov. buildings.
Now smokers are seen as filthy people more and more.
What is going to happen with meat eaters will have to follow the same pattern as to look after these people who get sick has become more and more unsustainable.
And the point of this anecdote was?
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